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[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This is a pretty simplistic take. A western tankie take if you will.

Many countries in Asia have suffered from invasions and conflicts with China.

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Consider more recent history, since 2000 what countries have China invaded?

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

China has conflicts with countries like India and Philippines. China backs the brutal junta in Myanmar. China invaded Hong Kong.

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

China invaded Hong Kong

lol, what? the british just returned lands they stole, after a century's worth of exploitaition

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Hong Kong was leased for 99 years and then reverted to being a “special administrative region” there was no invasion.

The U.S. invaded Iraq and Afghanistan and provided military support for war crimes to Israel, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone -4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

this ain’t the win you want

unfortunately no green haired left wing 'queers for Uyghur' about for some reason…

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I have literally no idea what you are trying to say with that? Is queers supposed to be a verb in that sentence?

I’m not saying china is good, I am saying America is bad even in comparison to China in many ways. The U.S. has become culpable for the atrocities being committed by Israel and El Salvador and that is just this year. In recent years they got the atrocities being committed in the Middle East and before that South America and south east Asia

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Many countries in Asia have suffered from invasions and conflicts with China.

Yes, that's a reason why some don't side with China.

Africa and the Middle East and South America and other Asian countries didn't have conflicts with China (in fact, they're typically invaded by European countries and/or the US) and so have tended to side with China.

I don't see where we're disagreeing or how what I said was any more simplistic than your reply.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Your post implied that all countries outside of the west sided with China when this is clearly not true. I am so adamant about the because I have first hand experience with this.

Even in Africa there is a lot of pushback among the population (not necessarily the elites) against Chinese imperialism. Sri Lanka is another example where there is a measures of opposition to jingoistic Chinese meddling.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Your post implied that all countries outside of the west sided with China when this is clearly not true.

I didn't mean to imply all countries, and it's my mistake for phrasing it like that, sorry.

Even in Africa there is a lot of pushback among the population (not necessarily the elites) against Chinese imperialism. Sri Lanka is another example where there is a measures of opposition to jingoistic Chinese meddling.

That's true. It's also important to note, at least with Africa, that there is also pushback against ongoing European imperialism, so when it comes to a "do you prefer US or China more" situation like OP, they might still pick one of them while also giving pushback.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

My bad, a little misunderstanding on my part.

We are good.