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[–] mdalin@infosec.pub 18 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Similar to some other answers here, but "number of times they've deliberately lied". Not only do you get an instant "trustworthiness" stat, you also get to know if they're lying to you right now.

[–] barooboodoo@lemmy.zip 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This stat is useless for anyone that's worked customer service though.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 7 points 2 days ago

Or for salesmen. Or lawyers.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

not as long as its real time.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 2 days ago

I'd be screwed, I'm polite

[–] Test_Tickles@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

"I used to try to give them hope, because in this situation, hope... well it's really important... it sounds crazy to say, but often the state of mind can really influence their chances of survival. But, since that lie metric started appearing above people's heads... well now when they ask if there's any chance, I look them right in the eye and say you are fucked, I mean like super fucked."

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

maybe categorize it into white lie, black lie, red lie, gray lie etc, There is definitely times where a lie "can" be good. It doesn't change the fact that it's a lie but, lies that are made in the attempt to be well intended or to help someone are important to know as well.

Like for example, seeing someone with a really high red lie count would be a warning flag because that means they are willing to lie against their own best interests which can indicate issues with anger or rage. But someone with only white lies, or gray lies would be based less significantly as those are done with well intent to the target, either against or for the liars own best interests.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean this is some magic super ability so maybe it would work but if you had to like program it what is white/gray/black is highly subjective. If it uses the persons personal opinion some nasty people would list 0. I bet trump does not believe he has really lied often times. Now if its based on what I would consider white/gray/black that would be nice.

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It would be based off objectivity, not belief.

Whether someone thinks it's a lie or not doesn't matter. Although you do bring up a good point. Maybe having an additional category "mistaken lies" or something would help. It would also help decipher how often the person fact checks lol

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

there really is not objectivity with white grey black lies because everyone has different lines. Its why you even need the gray area.

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

gray in the case of lies doesn't mean gray areas, a grey lie when identifying lies actually means that the lie benefits both parties without causing harm to either side. A white lie is a lie that benefits the other party at the cost of the liar, a black lie only helps the liar at the cost of the other party, and a red lie hurts both the liar and the other party.

I would say that type of system could only be objective, while the intent does matter as well, I believe a lie that harms the other side, even when you meant otherwise would be either a red or a black lie, since it harms the other it can't be gray or white.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

yeah maybe. this is new lie territory for me.