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[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Not to be that smug guy who drives old cars, but I can fairly safely gaurenteed my vehicles, from '84, '85, '93, '06, and '07 are not spying on me.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago

The problem with old cars is that, eventually, they will die, and all we'll have is the surveillance boxes, no alternative.

This is part of why it's so vital to keep the fight for surveillance-free vehicles, even if, for a brief moment, you are still able to avoid part of this monstrosity.

[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah but if everyone else's is, you're getting tracked too. Just like Facebook does. It's dogshit.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I've said this in other threads, but you are gonna see the value of old shitboxes skyrocket as they will be the last haven of privacy on the road.. Until they make it illegal to drive any vehicle that doesnt record you constantly via audio/video, require a breathalyzer to start, plus 2 blood samples, a piss sample, and a Semen sample/Cervical scraping before allowing you to turn the key and enter the roadway/

That's quite a lot to get a car running.

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

My bike is unregistered and essentially unregulated. I don't even need to follow actual roads. This grass field? Yeah can cross that. True freedom.

[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Government endorsed mastrubation? Sign me up!

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No, it will be via cold, unpleasant, mechanical prostate electroshock.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I already said "sign me up", you don't have to sell me on it.

[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Some people might be into that...

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Jesus would cover his eyes, if his hands didnt have holes in them.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Because I'm a gearhead and I like them.

I would've hoped that was obvious... So, to be more specific, if that's what you were asking:

  • '84 Oldsmobile Delta 88 Royale
    • This was my grandpa's, so it has sentimental value.
    • No one preserved these, so it's also super unique.
    • I've always loved the old land yachts, there's nothing like driving a couch down the freeway.
  • '85 Honda Shadow VT500C
    • It's a good little motorcycle. Reliable, cute, and slow enough that I'm less likely to kill myself on it.
  • '93 Subaru Loyale 4x4
    • This is probably the least rational, considering I own another station wagon, but I really like it. It's easy to work on, super practical, fuel efficient, and comically slow. I take it offroading and camping often. It also isn't worth much and doesn't cost much to keep going.
  • '06 BMW Z4 3.0i
    • It's a sports car. It's fun, and probably one of the better deals in the category these days.
  • '07 Volvo XC70
    • I've converted this into an RV with an office, bed, and kitchen. I go on multi-week-long trips in it without needing to take time off of work.
    • It's also been heavily modified by myself to be quite offroad capable.
    • My small community of viewers on YouTube also love this thing, so I can't really sell it haha.

I'll also mention that all of these vehicles combined are worth like 10-15k, which is signifigantly less than if I owned a single "nice" vehicle, and I haven't had to go into debt to own any of them.

I'll also also mention that, even as a gearhead, I generally agree with the fuck cars movement and whatnot. I want better public transit and such to get those that'd rather not be driving off the roads. Plus, driving in cities suck, I'm relieved to leave my car at home or a park 'n' ride and take transit into town. For how "free" America supposedly is, people sure don't have the freedom to not own a car.

That ended up being rather lengthy, but what'd you expect asking someone about their hobby...

[–] FunStuffIsFun@eviltoast.org 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Will be checking out your YT channel. Thanks bro.

[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Appreciate it! It's just my name, Joel Kalich. I also upload to my own PeerTube Instance if you prefer, https://joeltube.com/c/joel_kalich_

[–] Prathas@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wow, max $15k combined? Sounds like junkyard findings or something! You must be really handy, I take it.

[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Maybe a bit more... I was talking about current value as well, not what I paid.

Hard to say what Grandpa's car is worth, it could be worth thousands to the right buyer, but it's also pretty heavily used. The Subaru is worth about 2k. BMW about 7k. Volvo about 3k. Motorcycle about 1.5k. They're just not expensive vehicles haha.

I am fairly handy, yeah, not a professional by any means haha, but I can get quite a lot done.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Some people like and collect cars... Just like any other hobby.