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Europe's first-ever dedicated non-alcoholic craft beer festival has kicked off in Warsaw, placing Poland on the frontier of the fast-growing alcohol-free beer market while also spotlighting the nation’s wider shift towards mindful drinking.

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[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People who got raped under the influence could have chosen to not drink. This isn't saying "they asked for it." This is saying that it doesn't make sense to ban alcohol for a choice they made. They can and will still make that choice when it's illegal. This argument is similar to the "don't wear a skimpy outfit if you don't want to get raped" argument, but with the additional step of banning skimpy outfits, because some people were raped.

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Have you tried "choosing not to drink", ever? Have you ever had a glass of champagne handed to you to celebrate an occasion, and tried to say "sorry, I don't drink alcohol"?

Because if you did, you would know that there is a constant pressure to drink, because people have a drinking problem and hate seeing others not follow the same tracks, it makes them think about themselves.

Also, you're putting the whole responsibility on the victim here. But even tv shows and movies (which are heavily, heavily in favour of alcohol) almost always have the situation of "creep that tries to get someone drunk to rape them", because yes, you can get someone to drink. Knowingly or not. And the funny part is that the more they drink, the easier it is to get them to drink more. And on top of that, alcohol also makes the perpetrator more likely to act. I guess all of these bad problems it causes are worth the positive parts: cancer risks, addiction, and whatnot. Ah and I forgot, a slight sense of temporary , confused joy.

Also, the outfit isn't correlated to rape. Alcohol is used as a tool to rape. The comparison doesn't work. And an outfit rarely hurts anyone, while alcohol does.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Have you tried "choosing not to drink", ever? Have you ever had a glass of champagne handed to you to celebrate an occasion, and tried to say "sorry, I don't drink alcohol"?

Yes. Many times.

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world -1 points 23 hours ago

The usual cherrypicking, what a surprise.

Whatever.