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As the title says, how often do you admit you're wrong? Is it different when it's a factual dispute versus something more subjective?

I make an effort to concede early if I'm in error. I think because my mother almost never admits fault. She'll fall back to "that's not what I meant" or similar deflections first, and that's really annoying.

The last big factual error I made was about the distance of walking, and that's where I learned about Taxicab Geometry ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxicab_geometry ).

I think some people believe admitting fault is a sign of weakness, but I find it's more of a power move. It takes strength to do it, and people can tell when you're sweating and desperate. Usually it leads to resolving the conflict faster and cheaper, too.

(I expect some people will feel the urge to reply they're never wrong. I'll file that under never admits fault.)

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[–] blackbrook@mander.xyz 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I'd like to believe I do it every time I recognize that I am wrong. Equally as important, I think, it to constantly admit, to yourself, and to others where appropriate, that you could be wrong.

The fallibility of human memory and reasoning is enormous, even for very smart people. I think few people properly appreciate this. If you develop that appreciation it is really trivial to admit you are wrong, it's like admitting that you ate.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Especially intelligent people all eventually end up taking real IQ tests like a Weschler's. Which breaks it down into a dozen or so categories.

What you're talking about is crystalized knowledge which is just a tiny slice of the pie and incredibly hard to measure. Making it the least important

On the Weschler it's just trivia questions and you keep going till you miss 3. Or spend ~2 hours (just for this subtest) answering every question even if you're wrong 66% of the time. Like, it's literally the hardest to measure because of that, and because it's the one (obviously) most likely to be effected by education.

Like, one of the questions was/is "who wrote To Kill a Mockingbird". Every American was exposed to that information as a kid, so a younger test taker has a better shot at remembering, but wouldn't have been exposed to other knowledge yet due to their age.

But that's probably the biggest difference for especially intelligent people: everyone else still thinks of IQ as a single number. Two people can have the same sub score and drastically different overalls, or the same overall but a completely different spread on the sub scores.

If you're looking for the most important sub score, you're gonna want something like working memory or processing speed, but even those conflict. If your brain is running at 120mph, keeping something in your head for 2 minutes while doing something else is harder than someone's brain running 30mph due to difference in perception of time.

Tldr:

Intelligent people realize overall IQ just isn't that important for intelligent people.

The vast majority who get "too high to measure" never take the more specific test that could give them a more accurate score. 3+ standard deviations above 100 and it just doesn't matter anymore.

[–] blackbrook@mander.xyz 1 points 5 days ago

I'm not sure how I was specifically talking about crystalized knowledge. People can be flawed in applying any mental skill. And various forms of intelligence come into play in various ways in navigating the nuances or reality, or failing to.

Knowing or not knowing a fact is the simplest to see and talk about, so it probably dominates conversations about intelligence, sure.