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[–] lauha@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

You'd rather have your browser use the bandwidth to download all 500 language versions and 200 otherwise localized versions of the website and use some random language as default, maybe chinese or spanish for being the biggest languages.

[–] bryndos@fedia.io 21 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Is it possible for URL to request the one that i want? I feel like i remember different language versions of webpages from before browser fingerprinting - though I guess I don't know long ago it started.

Even so, it seems like it only needs to know my request as a one of 500 group. An individualised fingerprint of 1 in 10bn seems like overkill to me. Assuming that's what fingerprint means in this context.

[–] lauha@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Be requesting the specific language site you are giving them the information anyway.

[–] bryndos@fedia.io 18 points 3 weeks ago

I'm ok to give them 1 in 500 resolution (or whatever rough order of magnitude) to tell them i want to read the EN version. That's a lot less precise than 1 in 10 billion or whatever the fingerprint is.

[–] cavitationfetishist01@quokk.au 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Some browsers literally have a 'spoof is language to english' option to anti fingerprint. To hide in the horde.

And I'd rather DL 500 languages of actual content than 1mb of page and 2GB of ad shit.

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Bold of you to assume that modern websites will not be 1gb of pages and 2gb of ads

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 10 points 3 weeks ago

browser fingerprinting

Thing is, while it wasn't called "browser fingerprinting" immediately, it basically started as soon as JS was around. And feature-detection / media-queries actually make for better compatibility than just User-Agent strings (and other headers).

Content negotiation never really caught on, as best as I can tell. There's a number of headers that the client can send so that the server can select a version by language, content-type, and a few other things, but in all the web deployments I've ever done content-negotiation was never a consideration.

Almost any information can be abused.

[–] undefinedTruth@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago

Dude, language detection is literally done with a simple HTTP header set by the browser. There is no need for all the other crap.

[–] rhubarbe@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I just go to /fr for French. That sounds like a non-issue.

[–] lauha@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Then you just tell them your language anyway, but it's more cumbersome to you.

[–] draco_aeneus@mander.xyz 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

As someone not in the USA, I cannot tell you how absolutely annoying and terrible it is when the website automatically selects a language/region for you. It happens so often.

"Oh, you have a Polish IP? Here is the whole website in Polish. Also, the address field will now only accept Polish addresses!". Nah bro, I just live near the border. I wish I could select language by adjusting the path, that would be so much better than what some sites do.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Your example isn't even the worst. Polish IP and Polish language.

I have an Estonian IP so I've had websites determine I want everything in Russian.

There was some website at one point that didn't even give me an option for English. Estonian IP? Okay, you speak Russian. You don't speak English. And we don't support Estonian.

IT'S NOT EVEN AN OFFICIAL LANGUAGE FOR THE COUNTRY WHERE MY IP ADDRESS IS LOCATED

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

IT'S NOT EVEN AN OFFICIAL LANGUAGE FOR THE COUNTRY WHERE MY IP ADDRESS IS LOCATED

Nevertheless, you do actually understand a decent amount of Russian...and if you're old enough you are fluent.