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[โ€“] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

People never hesitate to show that feels > reals

You can say that but I remember Fukushima. The damage causes by the Fukushima meltdown cost more than the power company's total profits in Japan over the previous 40 years.

And it's a mistake that will never happen again, as this accident immediately triggered a ton of retrofitting across the nuclear reactors in use specifically to cover the eventuality that Fukushima showed us.

Now compare Fukushima to the ongoing effects of fossil fuel plants, and the deaths caused. What do you think caused more deaths, Fukushima, or stopping all nuclear plants in the country? This paper argues that the shutdown caused an increase in mortality (people freezing to death over winter due to up to 40% higher energy costs) ultimately killing more people than radiation exposure (emphasis mine):

To put these estimates in context, we calculate that the higher electricity prices resulted in at least an additional 1,280 deaths during 2011-2014. Since our data only covers the 21 largest cities in Japan, which represents 28 percent of the total population, the total effects for the entire nation are even larger. Meanwhile, the number of deaths due to the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear accident is much lower. No deaths have yet to be directly attributable to radiation exposure, though projections estimate a cumulative 130 deaths (Ten Hoeve and Jacobson 2012). An estimated 1,232 deaths occurred as a result of the evacuation after the accident.7 Therefore, the deaths from the higher electricity prices likely outnumber the deaths from the accident in only four years if we extrapolate our estimates to the entire country, and almost certainly outnumber the deaths over a longer time period given that the higher electricity prices persisted beyond the end of our study. This suggests that ceasing nuclear energy production has contributed to more deaths than the accident itself.

So keep telling me that nuclear is safe, and I'll keep pointing to the damage it is guaranteed to cause.

Nuclear power is the safest form of energy per TWH. Tell me again how much you care about guaranteed damage caused by an energy source. Nuclear may have a large local impact, but that's not remotely comparable to the global environmental impact that fossil fuels have, both in premature deaths and impact on the climate. Shutting down nuclear before you have a non-fossil fuel base load source in the name of safety is spending dollars to get pennies.

And you're risking your entire city, all at once, everything in it.

Out of over 660 plants over 60 years, there's been 3 'major' accidents, of which only one of them was even close to what you're describing. Fukishima has close to a quarter million people living there today. Heck, even the small town of londonberry township (3 mile island) has almost 5000 people in it.

Your argument is based in hysterics, not reality.

[โ€“] Forester@pawb.social 2 points 16 hours ago

You deserve a standing ovation for this comment.