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[–] SunsetFruitbat@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It bothers me when serial killers are treated as an “anomaly” when like they really aren’t? They’re the result of the material conditions. But to go to the united states, how can someone tell me a serial killer an anomaly considering like the entire genocidal history of the united states? Somehow a serial killer an anomaly but not u.s soldiers or u.s settlers who committed massacres and genocide? Somehow a serial killers are an anomaly but not the society that enslaved people? Somehow serial killers are an anomaly but not the ceo that kills millions?

Yet somehow serial killers remain this anomalous category? I feel like when people try to pathologize serial killers, it also a cop out to ignore the history and material conditions. If anything, serial killers are “normal”. There's nothing anomalous about them. And then it becomes odd to say when a serial killer “blended” in that they must of “manipulated” people. Like maybe they're not good at “manipulating”, rather they’re just good at what society demands of people and fulfills that role well?

Like I dunno, it just again, odd, how serial killers get treated as this different category when like again, you have plenty of normal people who have done heinous things.

[–] Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 week ago

I think the fascination with serial killers in american culture is probably a coping mechanism. The people who are most obsessed with serial killers are probably scratching the itch in their mind screaming "the entire society is built on murder" but they just can't quite bring it together.

[–] SlayGuevara@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A lot of the things you mentioned serve as a way to keep the status quo in place, hence why they are not frowned upon. This extends to animal abuse as well. We abuse and kill trillions of animals on a yearly basis for our palate pleasure, often in horrific ways. But put a thousand pigs with the cognitive ability of a 4 year old in a gas chamber and nobody cares. Put a dog in a gas chamber and you'll be killed yourself by an angry mob. It's the hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance to serve the status quo. Animal abuse is highly normal in this society even though we say it is not.

You can also see this in serial killers as well. Serial killers who kill pretty, young white women are highlighted. Serial killers who kill black or trans or gay people or sex workers are often ignored for a very long time or mever found at all. Because this society deems it normal not to care about these victims.

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There’s nothing anomalous about them. And then it becomes odd to say when a serial killer “blended” in that they must of “manipulated” people. Like maybe they’re not good at “manipulating”, rather they’re just good at what society demands of people and fulfills that role well?

I agree. The manipulation capability of serial killers gets dramatically overrated/mythologized. It's more that they take advantage of obvious vulnerabilities and power imbalances in a pathologically anti-social system that barely deserves to be called a society. And their lack of empathy combined with murderous desires (which is far more easily formed/nurtured within such a violent system) makes it relatively easy for them to decide that taking advantage of these things is a good plan. Some of them are the ones in uniform.

Hell, I recall a story of one serial killer case that a journalist managed to solve like decades(? not certain of the timeline offhand) later and it turned out they had been a cop.

[–] SNAFU@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's simply the lower classes' attempt to mimick the dominant structures (i.e. family, ideas) that are natural in class society. Obviously... this fails in regards to some things because they do not have the material or relations needed. So you get fucking serial killers, rapists, corruption, etc. Let alone the conditions too.