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Every negative emotion I have, I'm told to go to therapy.

Negative emotions are human!

Why have we, as a society, grown to fear them?

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[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social -4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

My sister went to therapy all her life. I never did.

I may be wrong, but here's my theory: she and I went through the same hardship: I allowed time to let the memory fade away in my brain (it wasn't PTSD-inducing hardship, mind you) but her therapist never let her forget. And now decades later, she's all kinds of messed up and I'm not.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 27 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Even siblings in the same household can have wildly different experiences with their parents.

Correlation and causation shouldn't be confused for the other.

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social -2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

wildly different experiences with their parents

Nitpicking a bit here, but you assume what my sister and I lived through was our parents' fault.

It was not: we both went to Catholic school. Let's leave it at that.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Just an example. You revealing that it was at Catholic school bolsters my point - your sister probably had a wildly different experience than you did.

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social -5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

your sister probably had a wildly different experience than you did.

How could you possibly know that? Do you know my sister?

We talked about it you know. Rather extensively. We met the same people at around the same time and went through the same kinds of shenanigans.

You think you know more than you do.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You're taking my examples as if I'm telling you I know for sure what you both went through.

I'm trying to get you to have a more open mind about different people having different experiences even if the circumstances are really similar.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 6 points 4 days ago

Plus boy brains and girl brains often process things very differently.

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social -3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's true, but I see more people going to therapy needing more therapy than people who just let time be the proverbial healer.

Again, I'm not talking about trauma so grave you actually need therapy to get you out of your funk, like wartime memories or terrible accidents.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Not everything is a one size fits all solution. Some people do great with therapy and some need a different approach. Your comments are bordering on dangerous advice by asserting that therapy causes more therapy.

You don't know what your sister's experience truly was without being her.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 4 points 4 days ago

My partner is licensed to deliver some kinds of talking therapy for our public health system. They often talk with some concern about patients who have interactions with private therapists who keep patients on, continuously, for years, and points out that there is no evidence base for that kind of delivery. Evidence-based therapies are typically several weeks, though it does vary.

Life-long therapy is something I'm aware of from American TV shows, and those conversations.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works -2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Here's my theory: therapist get paid to see clients and keeping old clients is easier than getting new ones.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works -5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Yup, that's my context. Are therapists on public retainer in your country?

edit: haha yeah, 5 downvotes to 1 for this. definitely some emotions on display here.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works -4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Cool. That's sort of better... but it might not be, really.

For instance, you'd think commisions are bad because they push salespeople to sell you things you don't need. So you'd think NOT having commissions are GOOD; but that is marketing, because every salesperson has metrics and goals, and if they don't meet them, there are consequences.

Source: Worked at Best Buy, where customers were so happy that we didn't take commission but didn't know that our supervisors would chew us out if we didn't sell a membership or get a credit card application.

So it depends on how the system is implemented.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Conflating therapists with sales people is a real good indicator that you need therapy.

Not knowing whether public healthcare has good outcomes is one hell of an ignorant take.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Therapists and sales people both exist in a capitalist systems and so are under similar pressures. (Edit: Unless, of course, they aren't! Assuming US context here, I can't speak to every therapists in every country in the world).

Here is one of MANY complaints from therapists about working in clinics where they are tracked on how many hours they are seeing clients / no shows / etc.

https://www.reddit.com/r/therapists/comments/10nfc88/metrics/

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Hey man, looks like you exist in a toxic system that is colouring your perspective.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, a toxic system that is coloring my perspective on that toxic system?

I think therapy can be very helpful for people. If it's helped you, that's great!

However, nothing is above criticism, and to put anything above criticism is really dangerous.