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President Trump continues to say that Iran wants to make a deal to end the war and that the U.S. has control over the Strait of Hormuz. Meanwhile, the president downplayed concerns about the conditions aboard the USS Lincoln. MS NOW Senior National Security Reporter David Rohde and New York Times Chief White House Correspondent Peter Baker join Stephanie Ruhle with more details and analysis.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 78 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This is embarrassing for the Navy because the combat units weren't able to protect the base, because the Seabees weren't able to repair the base in a timely manner, and/or because the logistics units weren't able to re-route the supply lines effectively. Take your pick!

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 68 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Worse than embarrassing. Trump and his ilk have made it clear that they don't really care about the conditions on the Lincoln as long as those conditions don't become publicly known. With competent leadership there would be a contingency plan in place for this exact scenario, but instead we're stuck with a MAGA TV personality that should be working on a used car lot next to a junkyard.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Well yes, but the point I was trying to make is that the issue (and the embarrassment) extends well beyond the Lincoln. This debacle puts the effectiveness of the entire Navy itself into question.

I mean, for the past 75 years, THE thing that the US Navy was best at, that set it apart from and above any other organization in the world, was its amazing logistics. We had dedicated ice cream barges in WWII, for crying out loud! The fact that we're apparently unable to resupply ships for months because of some relatively minor regional war is a decline of the same magnitude as the one the Ukraine war revealed about Russia.

[–] protist@retrofed.com 21 points 2 days ago

I think y'all actually agree and are saying the same thing. Now kith

[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

We’re a long way from the WWII Navy ice cream ships. IIRC they have less than a few dozen logistical ships for the entire navy these days. Your last sentence is right on the money.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 12 points 2 days ago

this is a reoccuring thing when I describe america. its like the way 80's russia was portrayed and he is making us like current russia. we will have our tank guys train with no tanks.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 23 points 2 days ago

also trump doesnt want the war to stop, otherwise the news is going back to concentrating on domestic issues,ICE and epstein files

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They picked a fight with a country that’s been planning for this for decades and has the weapons to continually threaten our bases and supply lines, not to mention keeping the straight too dangerous to rely on.

[–] cy888@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The US military used to have amazing logistics to the point that the navy built a mobile floating drydock &supply base to fight the Japanese without long supply lines.

This logistical prowess hasn't been tested in decades and is showing weakness.

The US economy likely unable to build up to support a war economy. Everything has been outsourced to China.

A war with the PRC may prove embarrassing to the USA.

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah the US gutted itself to save a buck.

Oh well.