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The China-centric video sharing platform is expanding with a new international app and an English version of its website -- with no identity verification (for now at least)

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[–] Varesti@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Make sure to like, comment, and subscribe so I can get to 1,000 social credit!

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I'm so glad I live in the west where we don't have social credit

Anyhow, how's your credit score looking? Pretty good? I've heard posting things that are anti-capitalist can reduce it, so be careful what you post!

[–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

credit score

I’ve heard posting things that are anti-capitalist can reduce it, so be careful what you post!

It really isn't helpful when you just make shit up. Undermines any point you were trying to make.

[–] fleinsopp@lemmy.ml 0 points 16 hours ago

It really isn’t helpful when you just make shit up.

That's literally the point that they're making.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Of shit you made up? The one making the claim (you) has the burden of proof.

[–] Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Isn't the dystopian social credit system in China just an exaggerated propaganda? I thought its a similar system to the US credit scores.

[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

So generally, in the PRC, the central government will put out a request or state a problem, and then provinces will attempt to implement a solution independently. If the central government likes the out come of one of the trialed system they might make it national policy.

That’s basically what social credit was. The central government gave a vague cryptic request for potential solutions about low trust in modern society, and a bunch of different provinces implemented various ideas, some via contract to private companies. Some provinces didn’t trial anything, some trialed systems that were basically just credit scores, some trialed a system of ranking “how good of a citizen you are” and gave gift cards and stuff to people who scored high.

Ultimately, the central government choose not to adopt any of them and the various trials were spun down. So, social credit was a lot of things, and thus multiple different ideas of what it was are correct, although a lot of reports on it mixed and matched different parts form different trials to make it sound as bad as possible, and some will just talk about one particularly benign system to make it seem like others are being hysterical. Ether way it wasn’t ever a nation wide thing and is largely defunct now.

[–] Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

Thanks, thats really interesting.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 20 hours ago

It's identical basically

[–] Jiral@lemmy.world -2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

You got the direction of your argument wrong (credit scores are a big problem and proto surveillance state stuff) but no, the social credit system is indeed worse both in terms of what it is used to punish and the means of punishment.

[–] Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Not arguing, asked a question if my knowledge of a topic was right.

[–] Jiral@lemmy.world -1 points 19 hours ago

And I was merely giving an answer.

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Congratulations, you paid off your credit card debt. As a result your credit score just dropped, good luck on getting that mortgage approved.

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 10 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Europe exists with neither of these problems. You can get a credit card if you want but loads of people don't. From a low effort search it actually looks like most people in almost all European countries don't have one. Few exceptions like Norway but even there you have a very significant minority without one.

UK here and I bought a house without ever having a credit card or worrying or knowing what a credit rating is.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Credit Score it does vary tbh in whether they care about it

Like just to rent a place I had to have good credit score here in Scotland, but when I lived in England they didn't care as long as I paid them

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 1 points 20 hours ago

Interesting, not rented in Scotland but in England I just had to sign on some toilet paper and hand over a deposit in cash.

[–] bugbear@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

yeah, no. credit score is very much a thing in Europe. good for you, though.

[–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 1 points 13 hours ago

in finland there's no such thing

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 2 points 17 hours ago

Not saying it doesn’t exist. But its easy to go through live without ever giving a shit about it. Been working for me so far even when deeply below poverty wages. Now I am between UK minimum and median wage so shits easy.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

fortunately, posting that Donald Trump is a pedophile rapist online doesn't tank your credit score.

try speaking out about China online and see what happens.

personally, I've been harassed enough to know I should never visit China.