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[–] SuperFola@programming.dev -4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

I’d say US/USians, as America is more than just the US. America is composed of more countries like Canada, Mexico, Brazil…

You can downvote me all you want, it doesn’t change anything.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The US could mean Mexico though.

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] RiceBowl@piefed.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Probably referring to Mexico’s official name, Estados Unidos Mexicanos.

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks! I never knew it had a longer official name.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

People who are adamant about "America is too confusing" are very rarely in agreement with "Afro-Eurasia", such that if someone says "Colombians are American", they're unlikely to say "French people are African" or even "Afro-Eurasian".

It's a cultural/language thing, rather than an objective one. There's no reason that (most) English speakers who don't call Peruvians "Americans" are any more incorrect than Peruvians who don't say "Spanish people are Africans" are wrong. But it's become a whole thing on the internet to say that "USians are dumb and wrong" for not having the same language concepts as other cultures. There are just different numbers of continents taught in different cultures.

But as a tourist, does anyone from outside the US say "I'm American" when they're asked where they're from? Canadians at least sure as fuck would never say that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continent?useskin=vector#Number

[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I read a biography of a Brazilian guy who lived in France during the late 19th century/early 20th century. Everyone in Europe called him an American, and he referred to himself an American when he was contrasting Brazil and France. At one point he went off about how hopeful he was about new plane tech coming out, because it would help “unite Americans across our various countries.” However, I think it’s fallen out of fashion to talk this way in recent years, partially because of USA supremacy, which is I think why people are salty about it.

[–] jif@piefed.ca -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Nobody is saying it's too confusing. They're saying "stop claiming that word for yourself".

Your examples are incorrect. The equivalent would be if France was called The United States of Europe, and used the word Europeans to refer exclusively to themselves.

Then, naturally, Germans would stop using the word European to refer to themselves because others would think they were referring to France (The United States of Europe in this example).

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago

People regularly talk about Europe when they actually mean the EU or the other way around. I think that's the closest there is, and it's also annoying.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

The USA is one of the few countries on earth to use a continent name as part of its country name. Yet you don't see too many people saying South Africa should refer to the entire southern part of the continent.

People also don't seem to have a problem with using "US", which overlaps with Mexico aka EUM (or USM in English). Like I said, it's mostly a language and cultural divide. Are you advocating that Canadians or Mexicans should say they're American, even if they don't want to? In the English speaking world no one other than the USA says American.

[–] the_fuckler@nord.pub 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Now why would they be referring to Mexico?

[–] SuperFola@programming.dev -3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

America is not just North America you know. It’s a whole ass continent. America isn’t a country, the US is. So when you say America when you actually talk about only the US, it’s as is you were talking about Mexico, Canada, Brazil… as well as the US. Which is… dumb? False? Erroneous?

[–] the_fuckler@nord.pub 1 points 23 hours ago

Literally a hate crime 💀 good looking making sure nobody got confused

[–] Zarobi@aussie.zone 12 points 1 day ago

South America, North America, and North North America

[–] jif@piefed.ca 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No idea why you're getting downvoted for this very valid point.

[–] nyctre@piefed.social 0 points 2 hours ago

Because it's pedantry. Check every dictionary for america or american. Or just type "america" on whatever search engine. First thing is always the US or its citizens. If anyone ever means to refer to the continent they usually say north/south America or "the Americas".

Go to any country other than the US and ask a local "Are you american?". They're all gonna say the same thing. "No, I'm Mexican/Canadian/Chilean/etc."

Whenever a word has multiple meanings, you're supposed to use context to figure out which one is being used. Well, the article title mentions the US government. It's also a very common phrase with a well established meaning. Check out Green day's american idiot, for example.

Really doesn't take a genius to understand what op meant.

South America is America too…