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[–] orioler25@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm honestly so concerned by the amount of energy drinks zoomers drink, plus the vaping. They're less into downers, but fuck me they love those stimulants.

[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The vaping is depressing because it feels like all the gains made by anti-smoking have been eroded with more people smoking than ever before.

[–] pirate2377@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

At least with Vaping there's no second hand smoke iirc, so while it's still bad for you it doesn't damage the people around you too thus it's more of a personal choice

[–] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I personally don't mind vaping, since many smokers switched to vaping and people who vape don't emit a passive aura of stench.

[–] mobyduck648@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I've binned off both but personally it's the cigarettes I miss, especially straights. Vaping just tastes cloying as fuck to me now, it's so strongly flavoured if you're vaping a lot you become totally nose-blind to it.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Thing is, the vaping is so much worse for heavy metals, so were going to have to dedicate a huge amount of resources treating people for that since it is actually so unchecked

[–] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 1 points 42 minutes ago

I personally don't care whether vaping is worse for the person doing it than smoking. The thing I do care about is that vaping affects other people much less than smoking does.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No it's not. The articles on that study severely misrepresented the results. Everything was under OSHA levels, significantly lower than what's in cigarettes, and a few were lower than atmospheric levels.

The formaldehyde study and the glycerin break down study had methodologies so far outside of regular usage that they were designed to produce harmful products.

The popcorn lung scare was full of shit too. Diacetyl and acetyl proponol were only used in tiny amounts in recipes that needed a buttery flavor. Despite the levels being orders of magnitude higher in cigarettes, and the only recorded cases being industrial workers and a guy with a microwave popcorn huffing fetish, the industry dropped it.

The EVALI bullshit was black market THC carts cut with Vitamin E acetate.

The amount of false propaganda against vaping is staggering. It was cutting into tobacco tax revenue, so the FDA killed the industry that was focused on harm reduction.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Oh awesome, do you have any sources on that then?

Edit: I was seriously asking.

[–] Hansae@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ngl I have a problem with energy drinks.... been trying to ditch them in favour of coffee

[–] hereiamagain@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I was a heavy coffee drinker until they found my heart defect.

Now I have no caffeine, doctor's orders, for 22 ish years now.

Sometimes I'll sneak a sip of coffee if I have a migraine, it helps. But God help me I won't sleep that night.

You don't realize how much of a tolerance to and a dependence on caffeine that you build up, until you're off of it for awhile, and try some again.

It really has a powerful effect on you, even if you don't realize it right now.

If I drank an energy drink right now, after being dry for so long, my heart would definitely race and I doubt I'd sleep for two days.

I don't miss caffeine though, honestly. I don't wake up tired anymore, I just, wake up. And drink some water 🤷‍♂️ then go to work, feeling fine. Not amazingly energized, but not dragging either.. Just.. Normal 🤷‍♂️

Caffeine is a drug like anything else. If you can get off the stuff for awhile, say 6 months? I bet you'll be amazed at how you feel, and you won't go back.

[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 20 hours ago

The difference is incredible! I am not and never was a caffeine addict. I just drink from time to time and I enjoy the taste. But that "from time to time" is like once in 3 months. Or at least when I need energy and my sleep was short that night.

The difference is insane! It keeps me glued and moving the whole day. I come off work and I do things non stop. I can't shut up. It doesn't let me fall asleep quicker than usual (10-15min). It feels that it is a some sort of an enhancement drug.

I hope I will never require it most of the days so I won't build tolerance. And I do not want to get addicted to energy drinks. If coffee is a mild enhancement drug, energy drink is a straight up poison mixed with cocaine.

[–] Hansae@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I have ADHD and dont take the meds and im pretty sure without caffeine id just fall apart.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Is there a reason you don't take the meds, like cost or something?

If not, you should definitely prioritize the meds, you're going to build up a resilience to Caffeine faster and it's like, so bad for you. I get it though, weed and caffeine are super common and effective forms of self-medication fot ADHD.

[–] Hansae@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

I can only get generic concerta on the NHS which does NOT work at all, sideeffects are not worth the impact it has. If I want to be in a medicated state I generally just obtain high quality speed paste and dose it at a theraputic level.

[–] hereiamagain@sh.itjust.works 1 points 20 hours ago

Also ADHD here, but perhaps a different blend? At any rate, I function 🤷‍♂️