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I've visited Australia as a traveler, apparently I've heard that "burner" phones over there are not really anonymous since they literally demand for ID (WTF? That defeats the purpose of it being classed a burner phone) otherwise they aren't allowed to sell it to you, what's meant to be a 'disposable' phone turns out on buying a regular one when you consider the fact they ask for driver's license prior to finalizing the transaction.

Don't even talk about SIM cards for BP, since that too is subjected to KYC in Australia as I've learned. They want to harvest data such as driver's license & residential address (for citizens), or passport info / flight confirmation (return ticket) if you're a traveler. Without those things: vendors can't legally sell you a burner phone, so: DON'T BUY A BURNER PHONE IN AUSTRALIA. Their method of acquisition defeats anonymity.

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[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

They probably looked at who users burner phones and quickly realized it's mostly people cheating on their spouses or people of the criminal variety. None of these groups are going to start a political movement. And cheaters gonna cheat and one more obstacle for the criminal folks isn't a bad thing. Tourists are a rounding error.

Sure, in the past we had phone booths and boxes. The majority of landlines were registered to a name, a business, or an institution. There isn't really a long established right to have a burner number. People used to voluntarily list their names and numbers in a book. And no cheating farmer Bob had a secret line put in the barn so he could talk to his side piece.

I'm going to guess the Aussie rules apply to most of the countries we group under the label western. And there is a danger that they harvest your data but it is more likely a government requirement to register ID. Like with private car ownership in the US as well if I'm not mistaken. It's not wildly outlandish as a concept.

Don't look into what they make you do if you want to own a firearm.

[–] shads@leminal.space 5 points 20 hours ago

It all used to be very easy in Australia, you bought the phone at a supermarket and gave bogus info when registering the SIM. Then the "War on Terror™" began and the government started taking things a bit more seriously started mandating the paper registration forms needed to be completed or the retailers could get in trouble. But your average supermarket worker wasn't going to take the time to do that and it was way too widespread for the government to actually crack down on it.

Took a few years but the Telcos started actually paying attention to the fact that the majority of prepaid phones weren't getting completed paperwork at point of sale so they just moved to make all sim card activations require online or over the phone ID checks.

Every bit of training I ever did made it clear it was all about catching terrorists, drug dealers and paedophiles, which of course means "We want all that juicy data without citizens asking any annoying questions."