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This is why I just don't like humans. I'm not racist. I'm not sexist. I'm speciesist. I don't even know if that's a word, but fuck the humans. Just.....all the humans. It's always about power, and control, and taking from others. Then you get this shit where even the people who are at the bottom of the totem pole look down instead of up. Everyone thinks they and they alone are the most important person in the room.
You don't hate humans. You hate the system that incentivizes humans to behave this way.
Thinking human behavior under capitalism is intrinsic to human nature is like thinking bears juggling is intrinsic to their nature because you observe them doing so in a circus.
I highly recommend you read David Graeber's work and direct that anger to where it belongs instead of holding on to those misanthropic views.
Hate to break it to ya but human behaviour sucks under a pretty diverse umbrella of economic systems.
Hate to break it to ya, but you have a very jaded and biased view that is not supported by anthropological evidence in the slightest.
The economic system isn't the only system that is the problem, it's just one ring in a three ring circus.
Again, you should probably read Graeber and do some learnin.
100%. It’s ahistorical. The story of humanity is the story of smaller groups pooling together in larger groups for a common good.
The concept of Germany, Spain, or France is pretty new. It was a collection of small kingdoms. And before that even smaller clans. And before that etc etc. And now we start to think of them more and more as an even bigger unit: the EU.
We’re social creatures, and every meaningful improvement has happened because we work together and care for each other.
There’s always elements taking advantage of this, so it’s important not to forget that we have to fight for what we find important.
This defeatist view is a gift to those that want to take advantage of our good will. Yeah, life is hard and it sucks sometimes, but if you let that jaded view take over, you’re creating a self fulfilling prophecy.
It may be surprising to you, but one is capable of realizing westphalian nation states are relatively new and that capitalism is not the end all be all behind humans taking advantage of one another.
There are an amazing amount of avenues to learn about history and humanity than pimping 1 author again and again. Holding tightly to one perspective could narrow ones understanding.
I'm pretty aware. Hunter gatherer societies are not really relevant to today. Exploitation of other humans has been the norm since the invention of agriculture.
I also think human beings are incredible. I wouldn't say I'm jaded. We are the most amazing thing to ever exist, as far as we know.
It's not just hunter gatherers. It's all throughout human history up to the age of colonialism where our modern day empires eradicated or subjugated other civilizations and cultures.
Misanthropy is the term you're looking for.
I struggle with feeling it far too often myself.
Most parasites & predators also praxis the above.
This isn't solely a homo sapiens issue that needs addressing.
Narcissistic personality disorder also affects animals too.
It's a word, and why sapien speciation supremacy is leading the charge towards total planetary extinction.
Humans suck, but Fire Hawks are just as bad if left alone.
That article is about the destruction humans do, not fire hawks. Some landscapes benefit from the spread of fire (fire has been part of the ecosystem of Australia for tens of thousands of years), and I’m not aware of any research that shows fire hawks cause environmental destruction at a level remotely near what humans cause.
It is believed that fire hawks are the primary reason Australia lost most of its forested land, and is mostly barren now. I am using them as an example of intelligent life choosing genocide as a strategy. There are other death cycling living beings causing more catastrophes than fire hawks alone: Ants, aphids, beavers, etc..
Could you link to a study about this? Fire hawks even intentionally using fire is so new to western science that it’s surprising to me to already assign that to them.
I’m still trying to find the aboriginal story of the great fire made everyone outskirts, which date around the same time fossils are indeed showing signs wildfire deforestation, but theory is that the stone writings of fire hawks predate the great fire, and it could be hypothesized they may have been involved then.
In my defence though, I am the most important person in the room.
the word you want is misanthrope.
Welcome to the club, sibling.
Humans are wonderful and terrible. It's incredible. We're the most important thing that has ever existed, as far as we know. I don't know how it's possible to think this. I hope we can grow and make it.