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[–] deeprlyeh@lemmus.org 77 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

That is awesome, anyone can train an AI model and use copyrighted materials. So this is the end of IP laws?

[–] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 67 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

Copyright is conveniently only flexible for multibillion dollar AI firms.

[–] isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 13 hours ago

If anyone ever does try to argue this in court, they'll just change the justification to "national security."

We need the most powerful AI we can make because our rival nations are building their most powerful AIs. Our rivals are using their AI to control drone swarms, perform automated intelligence-gathering, do mass automated hacking, and perform influence operations. Wars are quickly devolving into battles of drone swarms vs drone swarms, and the limit is on the people needed to control the. Our rivals are revolutionizing their supply chains with AI. They may even be performing vast automated influence operations designed to target individual citizens. In the near future, if you're an American citizen, the Chinese government will know who you are personally, have a file on you, and will be using AI to try and psychologically manipulate you. We need to be able to fight this! We simply have no choice but to keep up. National security demands it. Companies participating in national security-crucial AI development will be exempt from copyright laws.

I'm no lawyer, but a law to allow this almost certainly already exists. US law is full of national security exemptions. For example, I'm pretty sure in wartime IP laws can be waived. If you've invented some amazing new technology with military applications? If the government comes knocking and you just refuse to sell to them or demand a completely impossible price, there has to be a mechanism in IP law for those rights to simply be waived, or the rights taken by a form of eminent domain. There's probably some provision of copyright law that would allow a president to void certain copyrights in a national security emergency.

[–] PostaL@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

Flexible? That's a really wrong way to spell "inexistent" ...

[–] deeprlyeh@lemmus.org 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Of course… But it might be fun to test the theory.

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Next time they send a cease and desist letter to some website hosting copyrighted content the website should just say they're using the content to train AI models.

[–] thallamabond@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Good effort. You have been deemed a threat to 'National Security'! Only the biggest ai firms get to do that.

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago

"I was working on a MR. For America."

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago

You and I are unfortunately in the class of people that the law binds but does not protect

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Training a model with copyright material = fine

Creating copyright material and distributing it = not okay

I can infringe copyrights with Photoshop, or just copy pasting the image itself.

We don't need to knee cap tools and force everything behind subscription services with censorship just to satisfy the copyright industries craving for blood.

[–] Korkki@lemmy.ml 0 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

No, just another example that laws are for peyon proletarian poorfags. To the actual citizenry (large corporations) they are more of a suggestion or a guideline. US federal government just works to shaft the media and copyright holder megacorps in favour of the Ai megacorps, because rn the needs of AI megacorps are seens as more critical to the wider global future prospects of the community of corporate entities and global capital, which the American government represents.