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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Except for population to grow it requires children which also don't work, require more resources than elderly, and at the end of 20 years instead of freeing up resources (by dying like the elderly), continue to consume resources.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

At the end of 20 years a child becomes an adult, who will (on average) be a net producer. It's true that children cost more in work put into raising them than older adults take in work to look after them, yet it is a fact of life that one working human is capable of producing more stuff than just that which they themselves needs or makes use of - otherwise it would be impossible to raise children. This should be obvious, and means that the problem of an increasing birth rate, from this perspective, is at most temporary.

But I didn't say we should have high birth rates, I said that the problems of low birth rates are not due to capitalism.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 0 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Land isn't unlimited. Physical resources aren't unlimited. For example while a person can manufacture more batteries, with more people on the planet each battery will be more expensive for everyone because each is vying for the same limited resources that are used to make a battery.

I also wouldn't say that low birthrate is caused by capitalism but by over population. No economic system can sustain unlimited growth. When too many are competing for too few resources, there is no time for families.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You are not talking about what I was talking about, my friend.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago

The problem you describe as "temporary" implies that once your children are grown, they don't have further children that will use more resources.

A worker in a growing population can somehow support 4 children and 2 parents (6 dependents) yet supporting only 2 parents and no children (2 dependents) is a problem?

So no, it's not "temporary". It's a pyramid that eventually grows such that the foundation must crumble from the weight of everyone above.