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An investigation by Gamers Nexus found LG smart TVs sweep local networks to map phones and nearby devices. Tests also showed the sets can capture microphone audio with the screen off — they then upload data once reconnected to the internet.

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Correct vibe but many unfounded assertions that cannot possibly be correct in technicality

[–] dropdrip@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Umm... You've seen NSA's data centers?

"No way every domestic telephone call is being recorded and transcribed!"

Next moment:

"Woah! Gnarly dude! A.I. that's been trained on ludicrously large datasets! It can mimic your mom's voice, dude! Here, check it out! It can also write e-mails like a human!"

All the leaked intel points to: this is a very real and possible situation. Better not think about it and stick your head deeper into the sands.

On a technical level Google knows where 80% of Americans are, because they're using Google's Android. It could report back what cell-tower their mobile-computer is using, or it could be using the mobile-computer's GPS, or it could take the SSID of any nearby WiFi or Bluetooth device and compare it to a map that's diligently updated daily by every Google Android user. To say Google knows where every Google Android user is is very technically possible. It's also technically possible to infer other things with a satisfactory probability, like where the other 20% are.

The NSA, CIA and FBI were the data harvesters. The solutions to their needs were financed by them and we got... for instance, Google. They had vasts amounts of data and needed a way to search through it. Likewise the intelligence-agencies wanted ways to impersonate others digitally and... oh look, we have live 'deep-fakes'. I won't bother espousing how the economy serves the state's needs first and any consumer commodities are second- or third-order artifacts, but really? You don't think the very thing advertisers are doing now--in no way secretly either--are not technically feasible for the rapacious, infinite-money pits of the secret-police?

Right--I forgot! Only communists have secret-police!

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, they(TM) are very interested in your activity. You don't seem to have understood my point, which is that saying things like "certainly" and "guaranteed" only hurts your credibility since you cannot actually guarantee or be certain of those things.

[–] dropdrip@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Thread about LG TVs conducting mass-surveillance on consumers just because they can: computers are dirt-cheap and consumers foot the bill: they pay for the malicious- & spyware-infested computers and they pay for the data connections that allow those malicious computers to exfiltrate data back.

User concerned about mass-surveillance.

Your post: that's completely and technically impossible. I just highlighted how mass-surveillance of a national-population's location is now child's play because it's fundamentally 'metadata' that's generated by the network: it's how computers work. The difficult part is computing on these large databases, something that technology companies have made great progress in.

Nearly everyone literally carries around an internet-enabled microphone in their pocket; surveillance-capitalists are trying to hot-mic and hot-video(?) consumers 24/7: see Apple's watch and Facebook's spyware glasses as the latest attempts to make that behavior socially acceptable. They rapaciously want more data. "They" isn't a nebulous, unidentifiable term: it's right here in this thread: LG, Facebook, Google, the FBI, the NSA and whoever else is trying to make a profit out of mass-surveillance. The computers are there collecting data maliciously (as it's done secretly) and users' data-connection's are abused to transmit what is collected.

You continue to ignore all the leaks and literature about America's intelligence agencies and their global mass-surveillance programs. What even is your rebuttal to Edward Snowden's leaks?

I guess you're ignoring the public-news about A.I. companies 'partnering' with America's Department of War and hand waving everything away with a gotcha: oh you're just talking about a nebulous They(TM). You're a contrarian dipshit.

We kill people based on metadata.

—Michael Hayden

The American Government blaming the killing of children on outdated data and computers.

Here's an article that highlights the duplicitous nature of surveillance-capitalism and its brazenness: Pokemon Go users collected data that will be used to kill people. It was not consensual and it was done in secret.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

You're arguing against a version of me that doesn't exist. Why do you insist on thinking I'm disagreeing with your overall point and insulting me accordingly when I have made it explicitly clear multiple times that is not the case? I wasn't being sarcastic, "they" really are surveying you. Not just audio and video either; they can use wifi to track your physical location within your home.

My point is only and exclusively that you are making inaccurate claims by being overly broad in your language.

Learn to read.