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So what I'm reading is that they're either making a gentleman's agreement to let Chinese labs run circles around them or the easy gains are over and they're now running into a wall (lemmy.ml)

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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

Right, I'd argue that China proves you don't need massive data centers for training. And yeah, I think something like Qwen 3.8 is more than enough for tasks most people do. There are a lot of tricks you can do as well with the harness, where there's a lot of attention is shifting now. And it's a lot cheaper and faster to develop better harnesses than train new models. I expect we'll start seeing a shift towards neurosymbolic systems before long where the LLM acts as a stochastic component within a symbolic logic engine.