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This is unacceptable. And I’m sick of all the fucking workarounds to maintain basic privacy.

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[–] FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No? I sure don’t.

You sure do. I don't think you quite realize the possible implications.

So you think everyone will just abandon free software?

Everyone? No. Ofc not. But most home users? Yes. If we ever see strong attestation gating requiring a "trusted" OS, then I expect most who use linux today would abandon it. B/c everything they want to do, won't work. But it will work with Android, IOS, Windows. Big-tech trusted platforms. Data centers and so on will be able to use Linux... by abiding the attestation reqs.

Ofc it won't be every single last person or every single use. There are offline uses for computers too. But normal ppl want to use online services with that laptop on their desk. They want to bank. Shop. Use social media. Etc.

[–] artyom@piefed.social -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You sure do. I don’t think you quite realize the possible implications.

I absolutely do not. I don't think you quite know what you're talking about.

Everyone? No. Ofc not. But most home users? Yes.

I'm using Linux. I don't care what "most home users" do.

But it will work with Android, IOS, Windows. Big-tech trusted platforms

We are talking about Linux. Do you not know what Linux is?

[–] FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But it will work with Android, IOS, Windows. Big-tech trusted platforms

We are talking about Linux. Do you not know what Linux is?

At this point I begin to think you are simply a troll.

The point was that if those OSs work for the things normal ppl want to do, and Linux doesn't, then most ppl won't consider Linux as a viable platform, and will not use it. Under that possible future.

I’m using Linux. I don’t care what “most home users” do.

But you asked, and I am quoting you exactly,

So you think everyone will just abandon free software?

My answer was to your question. It was not about YOU personally. You asked about "everyone", so I answered. You are welcome to not care what most ppl want. But the capability to deny your linux machine so much as basic network connectivity can happen. If you want to yank the network cable and use it in your house, and you are happy with that, then great.

If you want to engage in a non-troll manner, that's fine. But I will not reply to troll type responses any further.

[–] artyom@piefed.social -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At this point I begin to think you are simply a troll.

Funny, I was just thinking the same.

The point was that if those OSs work for the things normal ppl want to do, and Linux doesn't,

Why wouldn't it?

But you asked, and I am quoting you exactly,

I did no such thing.

It was not about YOU personally. You asked about "everyone",

In order for me to not use it, it would have to be abandoned by everyone. That was my point.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago

The point was that if those OSs work for the things normal ppl want to do, and Linux doesn’t,

Why wouldn’t it?

We literally had a whole thread about it, which you refused to participate in because "my machine works for me right now"

It's fine, whatever, if this is who people on this planet are then we've already fucking failed as a species

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, i just had to read further to get my answer, you're being a shithead on purpose.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 1 day ago

I am not "being a shithead". I am trying to have a discussion. You, on the other hand, are being extremely rude for absolutely no reason, so goodbye now.