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[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world -4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean... yeah? US blocked sales of damn near every US component to Huawei. What else were they going to do besides not use US components?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 37 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The point here, which evidently went over your head, is that China now has the technological capability and supply chains to produce cutting edge electronics domestically end to end. No other country, including the US itself, is able to do that.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Oh good grief why are you always so combative? I'm well aware that it's clearly an accomplishment - but it's also their only option besides go out of business so I don't know what the US expected to happen.

Also erm... no, they aren't end-to-end domestically produced:

The South China Morning Post noted Huawei is reducing reliance on advanced foreign semiconductor equipment

More interestingly, while the Kirin is considerably less dependent on US or Western tech, it doesn't remove it from the equation entirely, and you still have to look closely at the bill of materials for receipts.

SMIC's process, however, still leverages ASML immersion scanners.

They're getting there, but if we go by what's in the article they don't have that capability yet.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Your "I mean... Yeah?" set the tone here.

[–] yukonbolshie@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Have you looked at the bill of materials for receipts?

[–] DonLongSchlong@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Your original comment essentially read like a bad reddit style anti-china argument. Like, "these dumb chinese people would have never figured out to do this if the US didn't force them to! No need to give those asians any credit!"

It is now obvious you wrote it from the perspective of "duh, why is anyone in the west acting surprised? They literally have no other option besides dying"

[–] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago

Dude is just your average brainwashed white Western spitting fabricated consent dubbed as "common sense"