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Would you call yourself a feminist? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 day ago by wuphysics87@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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I'm a cis male and I believe in the importance of feminism, but I hesitate to call myself a feminist because it seems like there is a presumption of understanding women's experiences as if I was part of the Me Too movement. In some binary sense given how hateful and shitty men can be I'm absolutely a feminist, but I wouldn't declare myself to be one. What is your standpoint?

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[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah but I've got absolutely no control over what goes on in subsaharan Africa or the middle East or wherever.

In the UK women are legally equal. There's still a lot of social issues to work out, which the bill and Ted thing pretty well covers.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Legal recognition of equality still does not address lingering issues from historic inequalities. There is no place on Earth that is free of this historic impact, and active measures to address these inequalities are necessary to create a new level playing field by which legal equality can translate to actual, de facto equality. I include the UK in that.

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I feel like we're saying the same thing. Would you say these are social issues that could be addressed by being excellent to eachother?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How do you get people to be "excellent" to each other? Social programs addressing historic inequalities are the solution.

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Like Scholarship programs and Mentorship programs and stuff like that?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

Sure! Those are good steps. They aren't complete, though, and that's why work still has to be done beyond simply saying "men and women are equal legally, so there's no more problems to be worked out."

[–] pieberry@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

In the UK women are legally equal.

Trans women in the UK are not even close to legally equal, and that's just the first group that popped into my head. Imagine how many more women might not actually have equal rights.