cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/52828517
By: @DrawingDramatic1641
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/1wi4yjh/literally_how_every_conversation_goes/
this post was submitted on 16 Sep 2026
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We agree but from my humble experiences the glazing of China is waaaaay more present on Lemmy than critique.
"Wow people generally seem to speak very positively of Brendan Fraser. This must be because he's secretly evil and they just wont admit it!"
Maybe there's a lot of positive talk about China and not a lot of critique because China, in general, does a whole lot of good and not a lot of bad.
Or because the users here don't exist separated from the world in which they exist. That world, for most of them, is one where every miniscule thing China has done (and hasnt done, as this thread shows) gets relentlessly critiqued in the mainstream all the time, so the users here might not feel a need to add to that.
Or, to be honest, since I feel like I've been a bit too hostile to you, there is also a bunch of lemmy/hexbear/lemmygrad/etc users who reflexively shout at anyone saying anything that goes against their beliefs, because every forum and instance has a massive issue with people assuming they are "the one true ideologue" so that means they don't have to investigate their own beliefs when they get challenged, instead it just means the challenger is a bad person - In the case of dumbasses speaking about bullshit they dont know and then doubling down that's true though. Or not "bad" but definitely "shitty".
I think we agree - I don't feel attacked or that you are hostile. I'm not a complete anti China person. As I said, I'm very interested in Marx, Frankfurt School, Zizek, dialectics, "etc". But I will never glaze dictatorship, suspension of free speak etc. At work (high school who need more students to be sustainable) I'm "that guy" who often point out that on many accounts, we in the western countries aren't any better, probably worse, than China. Often comes up when the talk falls on surveillance. E.g. management don't allow promotion through TikTok but are all OK with Meta platforms. I have to explain that the meta platforms are probably worse offenders of privacy and surveillance. If it was up to me, we shouldn't use either of the platforms but management wants reach so can I understand why they use them - despite having no evidence or data that points towards their efforts actually create value/higher uptake of students.
I also agree with you on the reflexive shouting on what I would consider quite large communities.