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[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is something most western people and governments either don’t or refuse to understand. All these BS sanctions on China, only motivate them more to develop counter products. Chinese will not curl up in a corner and cry. They will just shrug their shoulders and move on.

If by 'shrug and move on' you mean 'redouble or quadruple their efforts to generate a domestic semiconductor market', you're quite right.

China has made no secret of their desire to domestically produce their own tech. So have we in fairness, difference is China has a possibility and overall policy support to actually make it happen. Difference is China's been at it for 10+ years with a multi-pronged policy that includes trade, subsidies, market policy, and state support, and it's starting to really pay off. We've been at it for 2 years with a single-pronged policy of tariffs.

[–] stumu415@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I agree. The other thing is that China has are 25, 15, 10 and 5 year policy plans and broadly sticks to them. Plus they have backup plans for their backup plans.

Unlike most western governments that are being changed every few years - if they last that long - looking at you Holland. That means there is little to no continuity because the new government will have different plans, policies and priorities. For example look at America's infrastructure compared to China's. America's infrastructure is shambolic. Biden tried with his infrastructure bill, but that was killed like the first week that orange monstrosity took office.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

Exactly. And every politician seems to get elected by trashing the other guy, which means undoing every plan they put in place the second they take office.

Honestly that's something I strongly fault Obama for- he had a chance, he was elected on a mandate. But he refused to turn the screws his first term, didn't really fight for things the way GOP does.