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However, the last left-wing cabinet in the Netherlands was in 1973, and the last cabinet with significant left wing participation ended in 2002. So 24 years of center/right coalition. Seems people have to be pretty much brainwashed to believe some left wing party is the cause of their suffering.
I didn't say the issue is that people blame the left for all their problems. I said they don't think the left has any solutions. It sounds like in Netherlands the center/right coalitions also didn't solve their problems so they are slowly drifting father to the right. Not because far-right is so great at solving problems but because the narrative they have is easy to understand and it appeals to people in tough times.
Seems like something is missing in this explanation though. If people don't blame left wing, and are just voting right to find a solution to their problems, then why is LGBT support plummeting (topic or this article)? There is no relationship between LGBT rights and the housing shortage.
Because right wing ideology is a package. Conservative politics claim that traditional values are the way to go and that everything was better when everyone was white and Christian, women stayed in the kitchen and gays couldn't marry. You can see it right now in Spain were young kids are suddenly supporting Franco claiming that "back in the day" everyone had a job, there was no crime and everyone was happy. It obviously not true but young people believe it and buy with the entire "traditional values" package. Attacks on LGBT people are also up in Spain because of that even though the main concern of young people is housing.
because it's all anyone talks about on the media/internet.
i mean you're here on lemmy... can you go here a day or an hour without someone going on and on about how LGBT is superior and straight people are shitty and awful?
What do you think that kind of media environment does to people? it doesn't really win them over to your side...
they think that because... they don't.
what serious policy proposals has the left had in the past 20 years?
the left basically floats around being 'we're not as bad as the other guys but don't expect much from us' and only seems to succeed where the right fucks up. They don't have a postie policy agenda and they haven't had one since the 1980s. and that's not how you get votes, build coalitions, or govern effectively.
and it's systematic across many western countries.
Yes, the left is basically just pushing back on what the right is doing. The right tries to privatize healthcare and public transport and the left is against it. They sometimes handle the economy better than the right but they don't propose any real solutions, just try to keep the current system running smoothly. They stop short of actually fixing anything. In Spain they managed to pass a flawed criminal law reform that changed definition of rape and flawed policy that allowed for rent control but I'm still waiting for them to bank single use vapes - it's apparently very complicated thing to do...
yeah and that's why they suck and people don't like them.
they don't have a positive vision. their entire platform is 'we're not the other guys, they are bad'.
they don't lead. they just make excuses. and yeah, they don't fix anything.
What we need is leftists who... do something. Turns out... that's very very appealing to voters. Just look at Mandami in NYC... guy articulated a clear vision and is executing it... and the voters adore him. But a lot of leftists HATE him because they... are so unable to get their heads out of their own asses and put form a legitimate and achievable platform of reform.
The problem with most modern left-wing parties is they just... want to get into power and do nothing with the power.
I think that's a problem with most establishment parties everywhere. The pact between voters and ruling class was broken. Most career politicians don't serve us any more. In EU you can at least argue that they want to preserve the system and uphold the law but everything is collapsing too fast and they are too divided and weak to stop it.
the right seems to be a lot more effective in enacting their agenda...