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Liberals claiming that people should not be thrown in concentration camps for their skin color does not mean they oppose immigration reform. Most of them agree the policies need small improvements, but can also point to great improvements in life through immigration. In decades past, America (even under Republican leadership) actively sought it, and received economic booms through it.
You claiming that the message of helping people is losing needs some MASSIVE citations, since it stands against everything that most of us have grown up around from a basic moral standpoint, as well as well-founded research about how societies improve based on mutual support, rather than selfish hoarding. In America, for instance, most of the vocal anti-immigrant sentiment doesn't actually come from people living in areas that have been "ruined" by immigrants - it comes externally from people who have been given entirely facetious narratives of these immigrants, hallucinating a reality where the cities are "burning in chaos" from their impact.
If you want to discuss the point, don't dare with the "It's gonna happen" fallacy, used by Trump to try to claim Denmark (no), Russia to claim Ukraine (no), or hateful bigots to push racial ideologies masked as "anti-DEI" (no).
And if you believe there is actually a "problem to address" that goes beyond the R-word, then you'd need to point out what actual, tangible issue oppression and violence thinly masked behind an "Immigration enforcement" label somehow solves. Elucidate the point. Maybe it's "Well, everyone knows immigrants are an issue! Just look at the job market!" So say "JOB MARKET", and we can discuss that. Otherwise, I doubt there's much to talk about, because it likely DOES go back to the R word, no matter how much you want to defend it by sheer populism.