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[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 43 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

what's... what's going on here?

[–] jellyfishhunter@lemmy.world 56 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)
[–] gnufuu@lemmy.ca 59 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] MrEff@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Most under-rated question. Purrfect.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

but what is the source of the "white guy" controversy? where are people reading about this new cat and commenting on the race and gender of the discoverer?

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 13 points 2 weeks ago

Some people online have started to either seriously or jokingly equate headlines saying "Scientists discovered" with "white guys found out something the natives have known about for years"

This is a specific type of callout post with justifiable ire about that, but to the tone of "for fucks sake not all scientists are white guys. Behold; the scientist who discovered the new cat."

[–] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago

Female Bolivian scientist to be precise

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I feel like this isn't about a cat

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

People were assuming that the biologist that discovered the new cat species was a white guy. She's a Bolivian biologist who is decidedly not a white guy.

Just your average casual sexism weaving it's way through social media as usual.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

People were assuming that the biologist that discovered the new cat species was a white guy.

where?

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I’m answering what the OG post is talking about. I can dig up examples just as well as you can, but I’m not at my desk at the moment.

The OP says “this site” and it looks like maybe Tumblr?

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So why is tumblr's issue our problem?

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you didn’t assume she was a white guy, then this isn’t targeting you. You can put your pitchfork down.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Has anyone in this community, or on Lemmy or in the fediverse in general, been doing that? Else what's the relevance to us?

[–] Zarobi@aussie.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That's the problem with screenshots of other social media platforms; we don't have any of the buildup or history leading up to this. I'm completely out of the loop on this entire thing. It's like seeing a 9 layer meme that builds on all the other memes posted this week without context

Imagine seeing a post making fun of lämps and you're just like… what about lamps? They're bright?

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh. Well, if that's the whole story, then this is a pretty weak science meme

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Eh there’s value in calling out sexist assumptions.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I guess so, it just would be nice to see two people verbally sparring, instead of a one-person narrative about a supposed firestorm

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s an old trope that people assume any scientist is a white man.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

https://qz.com/523023/scientists-and-mathematicians-arent-all-white-men-but-you-wouldnt-know-that-from-the-movies

It’s a whole thing! Now that you know, I bet it’s like learning a new word - you’ll start noticing it in more places.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Damn, you’re lucky

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 4 points 2 weeks ago

I saw the article before but didn't read the details, if I had seen the name ending with an -a I would have thought a woman. But that's also probably because I knew a guy named Paolo.

There is absolutely sexism as well as racism still lurking around in the average person's assumptions. Seems a connected world hasn't (yet) fixed that. Might take more time.

[–] WesternInfidels@feddit.online 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

yes but what's all the "white guy" stuff?

[–] WesternInfidels@feddit.online 7 points 2 weeks ago

It's in response to an assumption that's described here, but not included here.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

There’s a running assumption that the scientist that discovered this new cat species is a white guy. It’s not.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

on tumblr especially, there is a belief that science is essentially only a thing white european/american men do and they impose their vision of the world onto everyone, hence "discovering" a new cat species (which was actually known to locals since forever)

it’s an understandable belief, given the very imperialist and colonialist history of science and the legacy that this leaves behind. but it also completely erases the many contributions to science from other people, like here, where the tilcayo was first formally described by a Bolivian woman, and named after the name local Indigenous people give to the cat

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Well explained.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There’s a running assumption

citation needed

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

this is no different than OP, another accusation.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago

What did I do?