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Donald Trump's bruising return to the White House has sent many longtime foreign allies scrambling to get their distance, and according to a new piece from The Atlantic, that distance will last long after Trump is gone.

Trump's second term as president has been marked by notable and widespread disrespect toward nations once seen as close U.S. allies. Between his attempts to level massive tariffs against nearly every nation in the world and his frequent breaches of diplomatic norms, Trump has created a hostile global environment in which allies no longer feel safe trusting in the stability of the U.S.

In a new piece for The Atlantic on Tuesday, staff writer Vivian Salama argued that this new dynamic, in which the nations of the world are working to establish a safe distance from the U.S., is bound to become the new normal for years to come, even after Trump leaves office and is potentially replaced by a more traditional, dependable administration.

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[–] Ismay@programming.dev 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

No. Trump is just a symptom .

We desperately need the US Empire to fall. They lead war all around the world for decades and most conflicts are born from them or our two precedent empires : Russian and English.

They simply have too much power and absolutely 0 ethic.

[–] knexcar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As an American, won’t the US falling affect us too?

[–] Ismay@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

Will affect the whole world and, of course, people living in the US first.

I'm not saying that lightly. I live upstairs (Canada) and we would be highly impacted too.

Yet, I'm persuaded the US empire will and should fall. We need to move away from neo liberalism or we'll simply all die and/or live miserable lives. AI, ecology, war, choose your poison.

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Be careful what you wish for.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

We desperately need the US Empire to fall.

I dunno, like I see where this is coming from, and partially even would agree, but the power vacuum would also be disastrous.

...and personally I'd just like to know what the hell to do about it in the grand scheme of things, so me and the rest of my peasant family and the rest of us aren't stuck suffering and holding the entire bill on account of a handful of monsters bent on ruining the world.

A reminder to study how people pushed through the collapse of their homelands in the past...

Edit: lmao at the downvote like "you aren't people, USAmerican, get fked 🖕" LOL

[–] Ismay@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I feel you.

If there is ONE thing I can give to Trump, it's that he's preparing the world for it.

He's destroying NATO as it exists, ruining the petrol dollar, destroying the US soft power world-wide. I don't think anyone did more for EV and solar than him the last year...

But yeah, it will be a mess. From my pov, the natural filler would be China. It as pros, it has cons. EU could gain a lot too but I really fear they won't have the wisdom to move away enough to net get caught by the blast.

We'll see I guess ^^