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[–] Molvorin@feddit.dk 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's not how a democracy works. And if you argue against it, then it's not a democracy any more

In the end, I don't think the rest of the world believes that this is all down to one person called Trump any more. This is down to the whole population and will require many generations of intentional cultural change to reverse.

The USA is lost to most of its allies, not because of Trump alone but because things there can unpredictably change very dramatically every 4 years

[–] DjangoFett@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hear the truth of what you're saying, but then by that same logic may you be blamed for all the ills of your government.

In the face of reality, that logic only applies to a few. Especially when our system was purchased by oligarchs when Millennials as a generation were infants. Our say began during the market collapse of 2008. Is it really my fault, or was my power to vote outweighed by corporate interests through no fault of my own - especially having lived and voted in MY and as close to social-humanism as my options would allow, respectively.

I don't deny we are no longer reliable as a nation, but please don't conflate normal citizens with governments. Its bad for everyone.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why is entire Russia cut off from SWIFT then, if the war is due to the doings of despots and oligarchs? Why was the whole Iran under sanctions for decades?

[–] DjangoFett@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Well I can tell you that I didn't put any sanctions on anyone. Nor have i made any international trips (Caribbean honeymoon cruise notwithstanding) or deals in my life.

Why are they under sanctions? Take a look at the discussions those oligarchs and despots in the US were having and please again note that I voted as much against corporate interests and corruption as my ballots would allow. If I was out-voted, am I truly to blame?

And if all these are such big issues in your life, what have you done to fix them?

Blaming people like me for the ills of the government I have disagreed with since the time I truly learned how it functioned is genuinely unhelpful; you are berating the only people in this sad excuse for a country who genuinely want to improve things for everyone because we do see the potential the US had and utterly squandered in the name of profits for a few.

We were sold the lie harder than anyone else. We fought against the lies in what ways we could. I've faced down lines of riot police firing tear gas into crowds alongside my father. I have put myself on the line against this oppression. Now I generally keep to myself and protect my babies as best I am able, which is beginning to feel increasingly futile.

So please, again, explain to me why I'm the bad guy for what the people I very specifically have voted and physically stood against every time I can have done and how its entirely the fault of me and people like me.

Edit: missing words.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wow, a whole lot of text there. All of that will be of just as much interest to the world as who voted against Putin in Russia. Trump is still the elected emperor last I checked.

[–] DjangoFett@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Then you shoot him in the head.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Ah yes, the usual, someone else needs to solve your problem for you. The problem that USians created and imposed on the world. But we also have to sympathize with USians about them not being able to get rid of the problem that they created.

[–] DjangoFett@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

A more measured response: it is not my responsibility to educate every ignoramus in my country. For you to suggest all the problems of my country are my fault is either incredibly stupid or incredibly disingenuous, especially when I'm on super lefty Lemmy. Clearly I agree with most of the sentiments here otherwise I'd be on Truth Social and Facebook spouting about how Murica's da greatest.

So please explain to me why, by your own logic, I shouldn't blame you for the bullshit going on in the EU or in the middle east or wherever the fuck you're from? You live there, its entirely your fault.

Or that's disingenuous and stupid. Don't be that.