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This happens virtually every single day. Drivers in Chicago would rather commit vehicular manslaughter than wait 5 seconds for someone to cross.

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[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 17 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

Edit: See edit at the end. I was working on incomplete information.


Looked it up, and here's what Illinois traffic law has to say:

A driver must come to a complete stop (and yield):

  • When a pedestrian is in a marked crosswalk [notably, this one is marked as a "zebra crossing"].
  • On school days, when children are in close proximity to a school zone crosswalk.

So you technically don't have to stop until a regular pedestrian steps into the crosswalk, but once they decide to enter, you have to stop your shit.

Additionally:

A driver must yield:

  • When a pedestrian is in an unmarked crosswalk on the driver’s side of the roadway, and there are no traffic control signals.
  • When making a turn at any intersection.
  • When making a lawful turn on a red light after coming to a complete stop.
  • After coming to a complete stop at a stop sign or flashing red signal at an intersection.
  • When a pedestrian enters a crosswalk before the traffic light changes.
  • When a pedestrian walks with a green light, to a “walking person” symbol or to a “walk” signal.
  • When a pedestrian leaves or enters a street or highway from an alley, building, private road, or driveway.
  • When a pedestrian enters an intersection with a flashing yellow arrow.
  • To a person with disabilities, including physical, hearing and visual disabilities.

Only the last person was driving illegally, but I think the other people who didn't stop were being dicks.


Edit: I dug further (i.e. into the compiled statutes and not just a handbook) and found more:

Whenever any vehicle is stopped at a marked crosswalk or at any unmarked crosswalk at an intersection to permit a pedestrian to cross the roadway, the driver of any other vehicle approaching from the rear shall not overtake and pass such stopped vehicle.

So actually, the second-to-last car was violating traffic law too. The other two could be debated given the middle car wasn't yet "stopped", but it sure was still a diiiiick move.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Interesting. In California you are required to stop if someone else stops at a crosswalk for this exact reason. I'm surprised Illinois doesn't have such a law.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I response to your comment, I looked in the compiled statutes, and such a law exists. I guess it just isn't mentioned in the handbook.

625 ILCS 5/11-1002(d), which I quoted in an edit.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

So it's pointless then.

Literally they exist for one situation...

person walks onto street

"I'm gonna hit that idiot. Oh, dang! They're on a crosswalk so I'm not allowed to."

That's the logic.