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[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 hours ago (4 children)

I find the hardest issue with trains is getting to the smaller side destinations. I guess you're still gonna need a small car or bike for that of course. Plus I'm used to semi rural so I'd still have to drive a few miles to even get on the train to go somewhere. And it wouldnt make any sense for going to a friends house for example.

No idea how it works really. Plus I'm almost always hauling gear to a destination so a train wouldnt work for me anyway. Going to get groceries is about the only thing I'd use it for and I wouldnt be able to carry an entire cartload.

[–] mirshafie@europe.pub 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Think of it as mixed-mode transport. Here's how it's done in much of Europe:

  • Walkable cities
  • Bike lanes within cities and to suburbs
  • Rent e-bike or scooter, sometimes included in bus/train passes
  • Free bike service stations with pumps and tools placed around the town
  • Mix of buses, underground trains, trams with lots of stops and departures
  • You can bring your bike on the train
  • Fast intercity trains, main train station centrally located
  • Use cargo bike for hauling stuff
  • Cars/vans for everything else

But honestly though it sounds like your situation (rural, often transporting bulky things) calls for a car. But the point is that reducing the number of cars on the road helps the remaining drivers too.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 20 minutes ago

Thank you for clarifying, I totally agree with that solution.

Less suburban hellscape designs would help too, in the US.

[–] destructdisc@lemmy.world 11 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Plus I'm almost always hauling gear to a destination so a train wouldnt work for me anyway. Going to get groceries is about the only thing I'd use it for and I wouldnt be able to carry an entire cartload.

Commuter trains in Europe and Asia have dedicated spaces for riders to store stuff they need to haul. People in my city bring entire truckloads of stuff on board the dedicated freight spaces at the end of each train car.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

Ive never seen that but that makes sense !

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I think you're imagining that the suggestion being put forward is that they'd just build that one train line, and everything else would stay exactly the same?

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

Haha no, that would be rediculous. I'm just saying its very hard to imagine my life with trains and how that actually factors into daily life.

The only time ive been on trains/subways is vacationing to big cities, where I still had a rental car but parked far from the city and rode the train in. That was fine and all for touristy things.

For 98% of people in huge cities I can see it. For every person I know IRL, it would not work. The suburban nightmare alone with people with 4 kids trying to get them to school alone wouldnt work. You'd basically have to tear down and rebuild all of suburbia. Not that I'm opposed to that, just leave me out of the city myself.

[–] muelltonne@feddit.org 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I find the hardest issue with trains is getting to the smaller side destinations. I guess you’re still gonna need a small car or bike for that of course

That's the same with airports. And actually no big deal if you have working public transport. You arrive in the city center. And then there are local trains, street cars and busses to bring you into every part of the city or to nearby smaller towns

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

Yep makes sense !