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I see the psyop classifying anyone who hates the bullshit and lies corrupting modern society as autistic has fully paid off.
If you classify tactful social behavior as "lies and bullshitting" it probably IS spectrum related.
Not enjoying manipulative behaviours because of their wider negative implications on society is autistic? The Kool-Aid must taste real good.
Like I said, if you are applying the term "manipulative behaviors" (or lies or bullshitting) to generally tactful social behavior, that is consistent with ASD. If you mean lying, deceit, and gaslighting in a malicious way, OP is probably around toxic people because I think EVERYONE would agree that it is awful.
Maybe you ought to make sure you understand people's positions before you lash out, yeah?
None of what's OP wrote was alluding to "generally tactful social behaviour".
Maybe you should learn to read before you get all defensive, yeah?
I can read and understand nuance. Nothing about what OP said indicates what he is talking about ISNT that either. If you think everyone is lying and manipulative you are either surrounded by toxic people, OR you don't understand social interactions. Everyone who is socially successful is not being a manipulative liar.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/autism-spectrum-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20352928
If you're having trouble seeing this, talk to your doctor. There is nothing wrong with playing by a different set of social rules unless you don't understand that you are.
Edit: Or maybe you're just an asshole. I can relate.
Yes but the default position should not automatically be "maybe you're on the spectrum".
Nice black OR white argument there. There are other possibilities such as the autism diagnosis being floated in everyday arguments to discredit people who see the uncomfortable truths with society and where that is leading us... Which was my point in fewer words.
You've even proven this hypothesis somewhat by suggesting I go see a doctor. Your immidate response to someone who disagreed with you was "might be autistic". All dressed up in nice placating words rather shorthand internet responses.
Perhaps neither of us are the true assholes...
I made that suggestion with the express purpose of being a dick.
I didn't get that point from your earlier comments, they seemed equally flippant as the guy who straight up says "maybe you're autistic". I can absolutely agree that in one-off circumstances in forums like Lemmy there are people who dismiss arguments by people who are passionate about things by calling them autistic. At the same time, there is a whole group of people I grew up with who have come to ADHD or ASD diagnoses as adults (not to mention some inlaws) and whose lives are easier now that they know that some of their foibles have well known treatments or coping mechanisms.
I think if you dismiss a majority of people as generally manipulative or poorly intentioned, there's a fair argument there for introspection.
I guess I should apologize because I came here looking for a fight. I have to take an old friend to her very last vet appointment in an hour or so.
You don't need to apologise, sorry to hear that.