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[–] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 73 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (13 children)

As a straight cis man that’s been on many dating apps but doesn’t fish, can someone explain why this phenomenon is still happening? Because it’s been a joke for years that women think it’s stupid, I’d have hoped that had filtered down by now

[–] starchylemming@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Men who enjoy fishing are single

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 83 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I think it's because men are generally very indifferent to taking photos of themselves that they never just do random selfies or take pictures with each other, and thus have something to choose from. Like, women seem to love taking pictures together with their friends, before going out, while out, or after getting home. It's fun for them. But have you ever seen a group of fellas getting ready to go out, and they are like "Omg guys we look so pretty, let's get some cute selfies together before we go out! Okay let's do a serious one, then a bunch of silly ones!" Women seem to take a lot of photos just for the sake of having the photo of themselves. Which is quite nice, really, they are having fun and taking pride in themselves. They also practise a lot, so they end up being pretty good at getting a nice photo with good lighting, angle ect. But fellas only seem to take photos of each other or themselves if they are showing off something they acquired (fish, motorcycle, car, woman).

So when choosing photos, they have a lot slimmer pickings. There's the fish one, there's the photo they took with their ex, and there's the one of them sitting on the motorbike with the helmet on. Then they try to do a selfie but they have no idea how to do a good selfie so they end up under flourescent lights against a white wall looking like a fucking Harkonen and get demoralised, so they use the fish one.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I hate taking pic's of myself can confirm. And I'm not even that ugly.

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Best hint i ever got regarding photos: focus your eyes at a spot a few centimeters ABOVE the camera, while not facing the camera dead on - rotate yourself a few degrees (which side works better depends - gotta try it out). Makes photos of you a lot better looking for nearly no effort.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ugh, I hate how some genius decided to put the screen below the camera, so like in video calls or whatever, if I'm looking at the person on the screen, and then I catch a glimpse of the corner where it shows me my own camera, it looks like I'm looking down because the lens is above the screen. So everyone probably thinks I'm ogling their breasts or whatever.

And then I get anxious and start overthinking it and can't pick one place to look, so then I probably look shifty-eyed and people likely perceive that as suspicious...

[–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 days ago

Then they'll see my boogers

When you start visibly aging and getting wrinkles, beauty comes from kindness. I dunno, at least that's how I've always felt. QED you're gorgeous, dude.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Got any with bridges in the background?

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[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Then they try to do a selfie but they have no idea how to do a good selfie so they end up under flourescent lights against a white wall looking like a fucking Harkonen and get demoralised, so they use the fish one.

Eventually they learn the daylight car selfie from the driver's seat, which looks decent because the roof cuts off the harshest shadows from direct sunlight but the blue sky all around the windows creates diffuse lighting with great white balance.

Shit up. That's a great idea why am I waiting for golden and blue hours

[–] protist@retrofed.com 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

But if you go on a dating app, don't you collect some new pictures? Like you can take a picture, or ask someone else to take a picture of you. People are intentionally deciding to upload the fish pic

(TBF, there are some women who upload the fish pic too. 100% of the time I did not swipe right. Maybe they're the ones looking for men with fish pics?)

[–] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 week ago

This is what I’m saying!? The logic is valid until you know it’s an ick giver. Then you take action to get better pics right?

[–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think a lot of people simply don't have many pictures of themselves, but they do have pictures of themselves with fish/deer because it's tradition to get a photo of yourself with someone you just killed. So they use that photo because it's literally the only kind of photo they have of themselves on hand.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And now all I can think of is a career hitman standing next to their most recent mark holding up a peace sign.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 week ago

At one point I had fishing pictures on my profile, because I didn't have more than 2 pictures of myself without holding fish. So I had 3 pictures of myself on my profile, one holding nice catch

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Probably similar to how a lot of incels and manosphere duds get advice from other men instead of women. They're in a little bubble. Maybe they don't respect women's opinions.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think there's anything like that in it. A lot of men just don't take a lot if any photos of themselves. Catching a good sized fish is one of the rare occasions and you are usually smiling and happy in that one.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That could be. I'm not sure how the "many women don't like these pictures" fact didn't override that, though.

When I was on the dating apps I got a friend to take some photos of me in the park

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

a friend

Right. About that... I'm writing that in a jokey way but a lot of men don't have that kind of friends or don't feel comfortable asking to just take a picture for that specific reason or just for the sake of getting a pic.

It's silly but it's a legit hangup some have. So it's again either a fish pic ("hey at least I'm smiling in that one and it's not a super awkward selfie"). I get their reasoning

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I believe you even though that's kind of sad. I'm not sure which of "they thought this dead animal picture was good" or "they don't have friends to take a better picture" or "it didn't even occur to them to ask a friend to take a picture" are worse.

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[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

As a man with very stereotypical tendencies, it's absolutely a simple lack of better pictures. And it would never even had occurred to me to go take pictures in a park with a friend.

[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I mean. Like fundamentally fishing is just a hobby. If you’re into a hobby, doesn’t it make sense to have pictures of you doing your hobby on your dating profile?

[–] horse@feddit.org 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I feel like a picture sitting by the water with a fishing rod would go over better than a dead fish.

[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Why? The whole point of fishing is to get a dead fish

[–] horse@feddit.org 2 points 6 days ago

Because the idea of enjoying a day in nature is probably more attractive to people who don't fish than a dude holding up a dead animal.

[–] dkppunk@piefed.social 8 points 1 week ago

This is a big factor too. IMO it’s honestly no different than having pictures of hiking, biking or any kind of hobby. It’s a good way to attract someone who will at least be ok with your hobbies.

[–] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

In theory sure, all of the answers in this thread make sense in isolation. But not with the decade of conversation from women on the internet saying that’s an instant no, which I’ve seen on hundreds if not thousands of profiles and posts about dating apps over the years

I understand wanting to match with someone that shares your hobbies but it just seems like kneecapping oneself for matches when we have this information.

Maybe my circles just have expressed that more overtly but I thought it was well known that will limit opportunities. I guess if liking fishing is an absolute dealbreaker it makes sense in context

[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I hear a lot of women say they don’t like the fish/deer pics too. But, I also see a lot of other women on dating apps with their own fish/deer pics. So. I believe I'm going to continue letting people do whatever they want.

[–] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I ain’t trying to stop anyone, I’m just trying to understand still doesn’t make sense to me but whatever

[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dating apps are kind of a numbers game, but they also aren't, right? You want to get a lot of matches, but you also want those matches to be people who you would actually date. The point of a dating profile isn't just to attract compatible people, but also to avoid incompatible people.

If I'm into fishing (I'm not, it's super boring, but let's pretend), and someone else says "I would automatically swipe left on anyone who has a fishing pic," then wouldn't I want them to swipe left on me? Why would I want to match with someone who so strongly dislikes something I'm passionate about?

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[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Could be a bubble, I've heard women make fun of it too but I really only talk to liberal, urban, coastal women. But more conservative or traditional women who like a certain form of masculinity could like the fish pictures or at least be ambivalent to them.

Like a third of young women voted for trump and tradwife content is very popular, I rarely talk to women like that though so idk what's going on in there head, maybe they see fish and think "provider" or something.

[–] dkppunk@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What’s funny is I’m the type you describe: liberal/progressive, urban, coastal woman and I enjoy fishing. I’ve dragged my partner to the local pier at 5am just to catch nothing. He also enjoys fishing, but did not have a picture like that on his profile. It would not have turned me away if he did though.

But I also come from a conservative-ish family of more folks who have fished and hunted for generations. Some the nasty Trumper conservative, others more conservative-lite but have voted liberal more often than not in the last 2 decades. I also started fishing really young.

[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd say hunting pics are openly conservative-coded because of the guns. Obviously there are hunters (and gun owners) who aren't conservative, but I just feel like hunting and guns are just gonna be a lot more controversial in general. Fishing is more grey area. It's vaguely conservative-coded, but it's also just gernally "outdoorsy." Ofc, I also live in a maritime area (Seattle) where fishing is pretty common amongst lots of different groups of people (indigenous people, hippies/punks, recent immigrants, etc), so maybe it comes off as more "openly conservative" in other regions.

[–] dkppunk@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah, that lines up with my experience too. I’ve lived on both coasts and fishing is a pretty common hobby in both states I have lived.

I can also agree about the hunting being more conservative coded. The hunters in my family were the more conservative types, the strictly fishing are more grey area/conservative-lite types.

Me? I just like casting a line and looking out at the water. I don’t even have to catch anything to be happy fishing.

[–] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago

I thought about that too but I grew up in the south and have heard it from women that do both

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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just cause women find it stupid, doesn't mean they're not also turned on by it. We are multitudes.

[–] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sorry saying stupid was kinda reductive of me, the rhetoric I have experienced about this topic is that it’s an instant “no” or “swipe left”. Which implies it being a major turn off for what has been in my experience ubiquitous, I know there are plenty of women that are into fishing and hunting who would be into it but even among that set I’ve heard it’s not a good way to attract a woman

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[–] snooggums@piefed.world 9 points 1 week ago

It is something they accomplished, like holding up a trophy or something they made. It shows they have a hobby, maybe they hope it will draw in someone who shares the same hobby.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Here in the Midwest, there are a not-insignificant number of women with profile photos of themselves holding a fish or deer.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Not just Midwest but ; mid south, south south, south east, pretty much everywhere I've been.

[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Northwest checking in, lots of lady fishers on dating apps up here

[–] zabadoh@ani.social 5 points 1 week ago

In a couple of ways:

  • It's bragging to exhibit their skill and promote their status as a fisher/hunter. Women are attracted to status.
  • The exhibit of an acquired food animal portrays themselves on a primitive level as a provider of resources, which women are also attracted to.
  • The fish is vaguely phallus shaped.
[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You don't ask a fish for fishing advice. Ergo, you don't ask a woman for dating advice. Because women are non-sentient creatures meant to be hunted.

Or something like that. It's hard to keep up with the multiple levels of crazy in the manosphere.

Nah see a woman is more like a violent sexy robot what brings you pie. That's why my dating method is so successful. Picture related:

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