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[โ€“] auzy1@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (16 children)

Honestly, there are a few thoughts about this (and yes, some will be unpopular what I say).

  1. There is the ethics problem of how LLM is trained. It is a theft machine. Thats why companies love it, because they can steal work and profit
  2. However, people WRONGLY assume AI is exclusively for Vibe coding. When used by Senior/real developers, it is super useful for writing tests and code reviews. Some of the issues I've found in our old code from 10 years ago, were never reported (or, we had reports, but always assumed it was something else). There are tools for code review (and have been for a long time), but AI has stepped it up. In well designed / stricter languages, you can avoid a lot of errors that AI is good at detecting, but, it is still super valuable for this stuff.
  3. Also, good for security testing too.
  4. The biggest issue are untrained slop cryptobros, who throw money at it, and can't test (or understand) their code. Then it wastes other devs time reviewing it and identifying the 50 regressions it causes.
  5. We've had cases where I've had to argue with customers that Claude is telling them bullshit. From the support side, it has made things WORSE.

I'd argue it isn't actually a good thing necessarily to ban using it as a tool entirely from senior devs.

The biggest issue at the moment are arrogant junior cryptobros who are too lazy to learn to code, and just want to throw money at the issue. And that wastes everyone's time.

What we really need is a ethical AI model that only uses completely open code, pays people for their code (instead of just stealing it). and a way to ensure it is only used by developers who can use it properly. Ideally, only allow that code to be used for open source too

I actually wouldn't want to see Gnome/System76 completely ban it. What I would want to see is for it to be permitted for approved devs with VERY specific guidelines dictating how it can be used.

[โ€“] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

Have to think about this in an open source context. You have an open ended population ready to submit to your project if they think they can be useful

Now, thanks to GenAI, a bunch of people who aren't good at various things now thinks they are good at various things. Whether it's coding, making comics, making videos, what have you. Try to do nuance even if it strictly makes sense, and you are stuck with the slop problem if your project is sufficiently popular.

In terms of more directly on your points, if someone does GenAI to do a security analysis, ok, but I'd want them to do the tedium of trying to identify the false positives and then re-report it in their words of actual understanding. It can catch things, but along the way makes a haystack of sillyness to go through. Same for code review, legitimate issues, but lots of missing (I spent a non trivial amount of time yesterday because a GenAI code review insisted a variable would be unitialized when referenced, when I see an uncoditional assignment just a few lines above, trying to think if there was some catch I wasn't seeing). So indirectly using it and only subjecting the developer/maintainer to that which you know makes sense.

Problem being is that people have used Claude and have forwarded to me saying "I don't understand this well enough to judge, but forwarding to you just in case". I have the same tools doing the same things as you, I don't need meat proxies that just pass through the stuff without understanding.

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