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[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world -1 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Do you have any real world experience with underprivledged people, or is this all purely theoretical for you?

Plenty of white kids have it way worse than black kids, or any other race of kid, or mixed kids. But that would require learning about the circumstances of the individual, rather than treating their 'privledge' as a pure product of their skin color.

What if the black kid is Jewish? or Episcopalian? Did you know those religious groups have much higher incomes than Catholics or Baptists? or does skin color trump religion?

What you are misunderstanding (possibly intentionally), is that each axis of power dynamics has more- and less-privileged positions: race, class, sex, gender, sexual orientation, physical dis/ability, mental dis/ability, etc. A fully able-bodied and mentally healthy rich, white, straight, cis man is obviously going to be more privileged than a paraplegic, poor, black, gay, trans woman with learning disabilities (but note that even this does not automatically translate into more happiness, better self-esteem, etc.). But if you try to compare the privilege of an upper-middle class, native-American, gay, cis woman born with only one hand vs. a poor, white, straight, cis, teenage boy with ADHD, it’s much thornier, and ultimately not an important comparison to make.

When people speak of white privilege, they are saying that a white person lives generally unencumbered by their race and how others perceive them because of it. They are, in aggregate, less likely to be pulled over or stopped by police. They are more likely to get job interviews, and to be seen as a good potential hire by those interviewing them.

For male privilege, it means being more likely to be seen as leadership material, less likelihood of being sexually assaulted, a probability of higher lifetime earnings, and less chance of having one’s ailments dismissed by doctors, or of being passed over for a promotion because you might someday get pregnant and need maternity leave.

Every axis of privilege is different, they are not particularly cross-comparable, and they are all just probabilities - none are deterministic. Some types of privilege are fairly inherent (class, health/ability), while others are based on how our society treats people differently based on group affiliation (race, sex, gender, sexuality). The point of identifying these is not to shame those who have privilege, but rather to recognize the various difficulties faced by those who are less privileged, so that we might mitigate those challenges. In a just world, everyone would be treated as though they were a member of the privileged group(s) along every axis, and judged only by their own actions.

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Right. So now we are getting into what is called ‘intersectionality’. That’s where you look at all the different factors such as gender, race, sexuality, etc. Yes, some black people are going to have more privalage than some white people. We have to take all of this into account. Like I said, it really isn’t so black and white.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world -2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Right, and now I roll my eyes because I went to a rich liberal arts school full of people who lectured everyone about such terms, and then tried to volunteer or do non-profit work, and got so mad and sad they couldn't save the world, and then got a job at daddy's law firm for 200K a year because life with a bag is a lot easier than trying to liberate people from the oppression of their... life circumstances.

How privileged are you? Have you assessed yourself and given yourself a nice little intersectional score of privilege? Or are you perpetually underprivledged?

Funny thing about everyone I know who uses the term intersectionality... they never identity as privileged, they always identify as underprivileged. Especially if they were born into millions of dollars... weird how that happens?

Funny how all the immigrant and poor kids at my school... didn't study that stuff... they had to get jobs and pay bills, which, as I understand from many things I've seen on here and social media 'is oppression'.

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world -1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

i know. i can't ever understand. my skin is white therefore I just can't help going around oppressing other people.

if I truly understood my privileged, I'd just kill myself so I stop oppressing everyone, but only if I donate all my assets to some random poor black immigrant woman who is trans, mentally ill, and physically disabled, right? gotta maximize those intersectionality underprilvedged points to offset my privileged points!

FWIW I live in a city where people talk about stupid shit like this all day. But I don't ever seem them giving up their million dollar homes and Teslas to poor black folks. I wonder why that is. Almost as if their conservations about this are more about status signalling to each other more than anything else...

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Okay. Maybe you aren’t as close as I thought.

[–] dkppunk@piefed.social 3 points 3 hours ago

Do not waste your breath on that one. He’s the single most obnoxious person I’ve seen on Lemmy.