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[–] eicker@lemmy.world 55 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

The funniest part is that the thing that could actually make AI useful at scale might be what wrecks the investment thesis: cheap, local, open weight models. Wall Street funded a trillion dollar server farm to discover that sometimes the answer is a smaller model running on your laptop. The technology might win while the investors lose. Nevertheless, companies such as Google, Amazon, and Microsoft – as well as Nvidia and AMD – are a very long way from simply going under.

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 15 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

Google, Amazon and Microsoft will be fine.

Oracle, though. It's possible they'll actually die. And wouldn't that be tragic.

[–] Infinite@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

I would comment about Oracle, but I don't want legal bills.

[–] scytale@piefed.zip 10 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I think NVIDIA has a higher chance of survival because they’re the ones actually producing something tangible (GPUs) that is still needed even if openweight models prevail.

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

I doubt it. Government would step in and bail them out.

[–] Nighed@feddit.uk 6 points 10 hours ago

And whoever scavenges their corpse will milk their ~~customers~~ prisoners even harder!

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 16 points 14 hours ago

Too big to fail? I think I heard that once.

I just can't see things continuing like this, there has to be a plateau reached at some point. Higher or lower. Exponential growth isn't sustainable in anything.

[–] dangling_cat@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Why do you think they are starving consumer market for computer parts?

[–] dangling_cat@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 hours ago

I think we are talking about the same thing. AI companies spend billions to monopolize compute, causing consumer hardware prices to go up.

lol you’re kidding, right? Have you looked at component prices lately? Have you missed the part about how basically all consumer electronics that use LPDDR are getting price hikes, because the demand for high performance memory has skyrocketed by an order of magnitude in the last few years?

[–] eyesaremosaics@lemmy.zip 7 points 13 hours ago

Nevertheless, companies such as Google, Amazon, and Microsoft – as well as Nvidia and AMD – are a very long way from simply going under.

Not really, once you look at the startups like OpenAI they have enormous expenses that depend on constant debt and investment funding, and the cost and risk of sustaining that debt can easily reach a point where they struggle to get new investors to foot the bill.

The whole market is based on a belief in a huge pot of gold some time in the future, and it is driven by unfathomable amounts of debt to keep the machinery running towards that goal. Once the belief in the goal getting reached gets broken, the change in momentum breaks the whole system.

That includes the big players, huge amounts of their balance sheets, including claims of revenue, are circular trades between themselves. Even google claims revenue from asset price growth in their AI subsidiaries.

Once it shifts from investment to repaying bad debts the numbers will look completely different for all the big companies involved. We're talking potentially bail outs basically across the board