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In an attempt to better understand Lemmy I’m wondering if some of you can shed a light on what the deal is between.ml and .world. The history, any significant event or a betrayal, how did we all run away from spez only to come here and throw mud at each other?

I’m sure it confuses a great deal of Reddit refugees who just signed up with the largest instance because of (in my case future proofing) reasons.

I’m wondering how this historic feud came to be and how I can be called a “Zionist” just because of my instance, and they are called “fascists” even though I’ve come across some pretty levelheaded people from that instance too.

Please, keep it civil!

I’m not trying to start a fight or mud slinging, it would be good if several people could say their piece and nobody shame or attack them for it no matter how much you disagree.

Thanks

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[–] okwhateverdude@lemmy.world 37 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think there is any organized feud, as such. A lot of instance population is actually self-selecting. Ideological instances are common. .ml happens to be one of the bigger ideological ones. Unfortunately, they tend to support authoritarian narratives coming out of countries that like to invade their neighbors. Lots of russian disinformation comes from that instance in particular.

[–] AskewLord@piefed.social 22 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

i don't think it's so much a feud so much as .ml folks are much more hardcore and they actively proselytize their beliefs and .world users aren't as aggressive in that way. .ml is more active and .world is more reactive, at least in my experience.

generally you also won't get banned in a .world community for disagreement, you will absolutely get banned for any non-group think in a .ml community.

[–] spankysalmon@fedinsfw.app 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Eh I dunno' I got banned from tv on .world for having such a gross opinion as, "Pluribus' writing royally sucks" with many examples of how the (mild ep1 spoilers) supposedly interconnected consciousness that just wants nice things for humans made so many absolutely asinine decisions in many technical and social ways. Along with several other scientifically unsound things even within the universe of the show.

So... I guess all that is to say, some mods/admins on Lemmy are happily carrying on the Reddit traditions of being the worst users.

[–] AskewLord@piefed.social 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

i remember when reddit mods didn't ban you for having different opinions than them, but that was 15 years ago.

hell, some of the places i was on reddit the mods would defend people's rights to have differing opinions and thoughts and beliefs. but that starting changing in the mid 2010s with the influxed of ID politics nutjobs who started becoming mods or harassing older mods into compliance with their insane beliefs that people are inherently evil or good based on their politics or their physical characteristics.

the irony always being that ID pol people scream they are the proponents of 'empathy' but their ideology doesn't believe it can genuinely exist between people of different identities.

[–] Calfpupa@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago

.world users have the benefit of all current propaganda pushing their positions so it makes sense they don't feel the need to talk about it. I have been banned by many .world subs simply for linking evidence against claims, while I only was banned from .ml once when I unintentionally promoted hurting someone (and was unbanned when I messaged mods about it, which has yet to happen on any .world).