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[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone -2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It is most certainly in the business's interest to pay the absolute minimum possible

But is this not basic supply and demand? More people wanting a job pushes the price down, migrants are more people

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

More people isn't just more supply, it's also more demand. More people means more customers.

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

What about when they're temporary, and go back home with their money?

What about when they come from a country so desperate and poor that they're terrified of being forced to go back, and so they'll do anything for work, even work half of minimum wage? You don't think that might drive down wages?

What if they're so terrified that they won't form a union? Shouldn't the IWW care about that?

What if this is all a trick by the capitalists themselves?

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 0 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

There are very few businesses that increase staffing 1:1 proportionally with customers

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

And? I'm talking broadly about the economy, not one particular business.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

That's just deflecting from the fact that more people job seeking means lower wages, without even considering that people moving from poorer countries will typically work for less

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

How is that a deflection? It's a direct refutation of your central point.

When a person moves in and takes a job at a grocery store, they aren't just a customer for the grocery store. They are a customer for clothing stores, movie theaters, appliance stores, barbers, restaurants, mechanics, etc.

To simplify things to "basic supply and demand" levels: if you have 20 businesses in town which each staff at a 1:20 ratio, 20 migrants moving into town and shopping at those businesses, increases supply exactly in proportion to the increase in demand.

It's reductive, but then "basic supply and demand" is itself extremely reductive. It's a drastic simplification to illustrate basic concepts, like frictionless surfaces and spherical cows in Physics 101. "Basic supply and demand" is not how economies actually work, it's a simplified model for Econ 101.

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

But then you're being reductive, because that person could very well just be taking their money back home with them. Because as you say, it's not just as simple as that. The person above you has a point.