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PHP Foundation 'under-funded' with one full-time staff member, director says (www.reuters.com)
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[–] red_tomato@lemmy.world 17 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

There might be “better” languages, but PHP is still used by ~70% of the web.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

That number is a bit questionable:

  • It only includes sites where the server-side language can be detected. That's often easy with PHP because of URLs ending in .php and well-known software like Wordpress which identifies itself in ways that are easy for a crawler to detect.
  • It counts sites, not traffic. There are a lot of Wordpress sites out there which get three visitors a month.
[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 hour ago

It only includes sites where the server-side language can be detected. That's often easy with PHP because of URLs ending in .php and well-known software like Wordpress which identifies itself in ways that are easy for a crawler to detect.

So there are possibly more PHP sites out there than we realize, because the ones which disguise their URLs are ambiguous

It counts sites, not traffic. There are a lot of Wordpress sites out there which get three visitors a month.

You shouldn’t be as concerned with popularity, and much more concerned with attack surface. Your argument certainly can’t be that there are thousands of idle servers out there that should no longer be maintained because no one reads the blog hosted on them?

[–] red_tomato@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Wordpress is still commonly used for e-commerce. You’re probably visiting more PHP sites than you realize.

[–] gollumsfish@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I’m aware of that. I’m questioning it still being used.

[–] stsquad@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

A large installed base of web apps including giants like Wordpress combined with a desire not to migrate when something is working.

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

So what. It's like saying hunger is good because most people are hungry.

[–] communism@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

They, notably, did not say that PHP was good.

[–] gollumsfish@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Neither did I.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 hour ago

Ok, make them all change then. Exercise your authority.

Oh? No one has any so it’s important to maintain existing infrastructure for the best outcomes?