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Joe Mitchell: "Thank God you're getting rid of those awful bike lanes. We don't ride bicycles in Iowa."

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[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

sociopathic behavior

Motorcyclists endangering themselves is entirely different to cars endangering literally everybody.

Motorcycle isn't a hobby, its a mode of transport.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

For some it is definitely a hobby. It can be both, to different people. Just like bicycling

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

I mean that's true of cars too. But the people who drive cars as a hobby are such a small population that they're irrelevant to the conversation.

Hell Ill take a 25 year old with a riced up Civic going double the speed limit over the average Suburban Assault Vehicle driver, at least the former are probably paying attention.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

By sociopathic behavior I meat mainly the noise. There's 0 need for most bikes to be as loud as they are. Bikers install loud exhausts because they like it and they don't care about anyone else.

And it's 100% a hobby for many many people. I'm sure it varies by region but were I live there's plenty of mountain roads that fill up with motorbikes every weekend. Stats confirm it, most of motorbike accidents happen during the weekend. Those people are not traveling from point A to point B. They go on weekend rides. And those "fun" rides usually involve excessive speeds and noise. Maybe it's different where you live but this is what I see on roads around me.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well yeah, in America, the popular perception of motorcycles are toys instead of a valid type of transportation, and so dudes who drive a car to an office job 5 days a week buy a 30,000 dollar Harley to role-play Sons of Anarchy on the weekend. Here everyone from 14 year olds to grandmas ride.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm in Europe and it's very similar. Many motorcyclist are cosplaying as bikers or Moto GP racers. Mopeds are different thing, even here.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

Scooters/mopeds aren't common in the US because for the price of a new scooter, you can get a used highway capable motorcycle. And the mopeds depreciation slower than the motorcycles so even the used ones are expensive. Meanwhile in asia you can get a new Honda Wave for 800 usd.