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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Look AI code gets a ton of hate. And rightfully so. But you can use a coding agent to basically completely take control of hardware you own. It takes minutes.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 53 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Could you go into more detail for those of us who don't want to brick their tv? I think you're over estimating some of our knowledge base.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There’s a repo with ready-made APKs for many TV models: https://github.com/Gathin23/cleanyourtv

And if your specific one isn’t supported, it has instructions how to do it with AI yourself

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Oh cool, I'm sending that to my programmer wife to let her try if she's interested when the Samsung TV version is out. I'm an engineer and thus not allowed to mess with the programming of anything shared.

[–] SlimePirate@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

So bascially use adb to debloat and configure a custom launcher apk? But instead of manual installation, agent using MCP?

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Pretty much AFAIK

There are so many variants of Android TVs so that just a single image won’t work

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Was watching gamers nexus. Opened up codex. Gave it network permissions. It was able to fully take control of the TV in minutes. It even navigated to the admin panel and gave me the code to plug in. Very quickly had figured out some of the major API's. In a half hour, I was able to get a container/ program set up to just "send" any stream I wanted to the TV without having to use any Samsung services. Then, scramble/ poison telemetry data/ advertising data. Whatever you like. None of it is worth publishing. But I wanted to control the TV I bought. The one I own. In my house. That I paid for. And I think its royally fucked up the world we live in that there are any barriers to that.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

So, this all sounds completely plausible, but at the same time it also sounds totally crazy right! I mean that anyone could do that without actually knowing a lot about the specific system being compromised... Nuts.

I guess I'm just curious, how much experience do you have with writing software, reverse engineering or hacking? Because I just can't wrap my head around how a layman could accomplish this. The possibility of being able to un-enshitify the devices we purchase is really very exciting.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I had the tv for ages and I basically never turned it on because it was so enshittified with their shit software anyways.

I do have experience with software and reverse engineering but it's not what you think. It's mostly trying to reverse engineer pin outs for old scientific equipment or rat tailed sensors that come from China with no documentation. Check my post history.

I didn't need to do shit for the TV thing. I just finished watching the episode of GN and was like " well I've got a Samsung that's basically a brick anyways because it's so enshittifed, worst that could happen is it stays a brick.

What I found out is I don't need to rewrite the firmware to take control. There are basically APIs for most things.

Just go try it.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Just don't use OpenAI or Anthropic cloud models for reverse engineering your TV's APIs. This guy got banned from OpenAI for doing this research on his Samsung TV, and there are reports of Anthropic models starting to refuse reverse engineering tasks, having been given new guidance. Apparently proles learning about the corporate surveillance they're under is a step too far.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Hence the point about not fucking advertising it.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

You made the same exact statement yesterday and got buried in downvotes. Man, this fucking place sometimes...

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

Just gonna throw it out there that at least one of the parties to this interaction is being consistent.

[–] Town@lemmy.zip 32 points 1 day ago

I assume all your interactions with AI are being analyzed continuously and they will keep getting more restrictive about what you can use it for.

[–] belochka@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They are saying that if you are using a cloud model, you are advertising it by default.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

There is a mile of difference in that and blasting it on Twitter.

It's how you get them working in blocking our ability to use these these for a legitimate and useful purpose of taking back control of our own devices.

[–] belochka@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

Not today, no, no difference at all today.

[–] dingleberrylover@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Which models would you recommend from whom to get this done?

[–] ChaosMonkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

True, but it may also allow malevolent people to take control of hardware they do not own.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

Well the malevolent people I'm concerned about are the ones who sold me a TV I can't control and who stole the Internet to make you rent our collective knowledge we built together.

[–] YetAnotherNerd@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just open up any coding agent you like, locally hosted or otherwise, give it network permissions and the model number, and let it cook. These TV's are basically unsecured.

[–] YetAnotherNerd@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Assume I’m a newb. What kind of prompt would you give it? “ I have model x. Please find it and fix the apps on it to not record my information”?

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My conversation literally started like:

I have a local Samsung TV that is a good TV, but the Samsung software is absolute shit and I hate it. I dont want ads. I don't want their shit software. And I want to poison any telemetry streams they might be using to spy. I recently watched a gamers nexus video on hacking TV's. Can you look on my network and find the TV. and then do a research project to look into what it would take to de-shittify this TV?

[–] belochka@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

software. And I want to poison any telemetry streams they might be using to spy. I recently watched a gamers nexus video on hacking TV's. Can you look on my network and find the TV. and then do a research project to look into what it would take to de-shittify this TV?

So, "local" would require a pretty powerful machine here and "cloud" might eventually stop being an option because they don't want you to do such things using their cloud models.

Other than that, you are starting to attain that tone of a person who thinks they are starting to understand something in depth, like a Linux convert that has learned that one can write shell scripts. Don't. You've used a glorified combination of Google and StackOverflow copypaste and it worked.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I litterally had the TV unplugged and sitting a basically a brick because it their software was such shit.

Worse that could happen was that it stayed bricked. I didn't "do" anything other than express what I wanted it to do, punch in the code it told me to to give it developer access to the TV, and then finish watching Gamers nexus.

Like I genuinely don't care what you think about this. I bought the 120 gb strix halo machine specifically for hosting local LLMs.

You have strong opinions. That's fine. But they are your opinions. Not mine.

[–] belochka@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

OK, sorry, got emotional and wrong.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

Bruh its actually super fun if you have any networked/ IOT devices.

You can just take control, like you own them (because you do).

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

What even is this comment? Someone asked how, person above simply replied how it started, and now you attack him because..?

[–] belochka@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

What do you mean wrong? Hacking home gadgets and smart devices is literally trending right now. Editing smart TVs is actually pretty meh, I've seen people edit firmware of common gadgets and smart devices to do whatever you want.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ai-coding-hack-smart-tvs-9.7392179

Using AI to remove power from the corporations is one right use case of it.

EDIT: I might have misinterpreted you