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systemd really, really sucks (ser1.net)

submitted 21 hours ago by Kajika@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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You can also read The problem with the anti systemd attitude.

This is not just hatred towards systemd, it can do things very well, the direction it is going isn't great.

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[–] nous@programming.dev 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Application developers are not being forced to integrating with systemd at all. They are choosing to do that because it helps them. The only developers negatively affected by this are the ones developing other init systems that don't want to provide the same features the application developers want to use.

[–] Kajika@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Yes and no, I said "devs" and you come saying "actually [...]" but really people "integrating" software "usually" are developpers. If you want to start a web server you will have to deal with systemd. If you want to check logs, you will also. If you need to debug an application that crashed (in C at least) in a production/test environment (not in "my machine") you might want to get into core dumps.

They are choosing to do that because it helps them

Really? In what universe are you living? Any piece of software I built, professionally or not, had to run on debian-based or arch-based linux hence systemd. Did I choose or any fellow developers of my time? No, maybe people 20 years ago, maybe... That really reminds me of conservative views on "social contract" like we all chose the society we are living in.