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[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 91 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Technically solar power is nuclear power ☝️🤓

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 39 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

All power is solar power if you go deep enough. Or to be more accurate, stellar power.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 9 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

Tidal and geothermal are not.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

This raises an interesting question in my mind, does tidal power make the earth get closer to the moon? Because if you got all the energy out of it, then the water wouldn't move, so I guess it's the same as gravitational potential in that sense, but I guess it's removing it, so less gravitational potential means either less mass (not the case) or less distance.

[–] excess0680@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The opposite happens. Tidal energy is what causes the moon to drift farther away from the earth, as the moon loses angular velocity.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

But does harvesting it make it go faster or slower away?

[–] Kellenved@sh.itjust.works 16 points 14 hours ago

You’re not deep enough yet, tides and earths core only exist because stars exploded billions of years ago and some particles eventually formed earth

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Geothermal comes from friction inside the core, residual heat from planet formation, and radioactive decay. Since all elements heavier than hydrogen were fused inside stars, and heavier actinides like uranium are formed in second gen stars, and the inertia of dust that coalesces into planetary bodies including the earth and the moon originated from dying stars going supernovae, geothermal and tidal energy are products of stellar explosions, either inertial, kinetic, or radioactive. Tides are driven by the moon, whose energy is kinetic, stored from past supernovae

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

All stars came from the Big Bang.

So it's all Big Bang powered.

Checkmate.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago

You're right, we are all just passengers on this bang bus

[–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 2 points 15 hours ago

Planet wouldn't exist if stars didn't explode billions of years ago, checkmate.

[–] sparkyshocks@lemmy.zip 1 points 12 hours ago

Most usable energy on Earth comes from fusion of hydrogen into helium in the Sun, creating radiation that hits the Earth. That's solar energy, of course, either thermal or photovoltaics, but also the wind caused by uneven warming, the evaporation and condensation of water that flows downhill for hydro power, the chemical bonds formed by photosynthesis making renewable biofuels or older fossil fuels.

Some portion of energy on Earth is gravitational potential energy and the kinetic energy of stuff moving around settling into a lower energy state: the moon dragging the oceans around, the heat of the Earth's core spinning and tectonic plates moving from the momentum of all the dust that got pulled into what is now a planet. Geothermal and tidal energy mostly come from these planet scale phenomena.

Some portion of energy is the release of energy stored in nuclei formed from some past supernova, of less stable isotopes of atoms heavier than iron. Some portion of geothermal is traceable to this kind of nuclear decay, and obviously we can isolate and enrich those nuclear elements into fission fuel for nuclear power, as well.

Hard to categorize the second and third categories into solar power, though. Yeah, it comes from astronomical phenomena tracing back to how our solar system and planets were formed, from the materials they're made out of, and found their way into their current shapes and orbits, but is that solar power?

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Which is ultimately caused or released by gravity.

[–] Pixel_Jock_17@piefed.ca 1 points 16 hours ago

Stellar? Mmmm never thought about this word much. Constellation? Stars? Stellar?

I have some holes to go down

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago

Fusion as well

[–] dovahking@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Goated power generation method because no form of water needed.