Matrix was built to become the open communication of the web and serve everyone. But, as the Internet and email did, its network effect started with governments. Today, and as proven by the audience in the room, most European governments and several others are either using it or looking at implementing it for their communications. This talk will tell the story of how we got there and why.

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[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 28 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

It sucks because it feels SOOOO close. I had my own server setup but setting up a client was so very hard. And it was hard to explain to friends/family how to set it up.

My CPU on my tiny server was being used like crazy for matrix.

[–] eodur@piefed.social 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I switched from synapse to continuwuity about 9 months ago and it has been a MUCH better experience. Also switched from Element to Sable recently and it is a much more comfortable and reliable client. Not much more complicated to set up than Discord IMHO.

[–] dangling_cat@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 days ago

Shoutout to continuwuity! UwU Queer people power the internet~

[–] Flipper@feddit.org 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

How do you migrate everything?

[–] ThreeKnew@lemdro.id 1 points 2 days ago

Right now, you can't. Tuwunel has had migration from Synapse on the roadmap since forever (it's issue #2 on gh)

So for the time being, if you're on synapse, you're stuck on synapse

[–] eodur@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago

That's the neat part. You dont!

There may actually be a way to migrate but I am the only user on my instance so I just yolo'd it.

[–] Bongles@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago

And it was hard to explain to friends/family how to set it up.

That's why I gave up on self hosting it. I can sit here and mess around with recovery keys and verification and whatever else, but if the people that would use it with me can't just sign up and chat, then I've got no one to talk to. They don't care much about privacy, which I'm finding is most people.

[–] Ontimp@feddit.org 3 points 3 days ago

Yea Synapse is very resource hungry. Element built a much more performative enterprise server implementation, but though it's open source it comes with a proprietary license, which kind of defeats the point when it comes to digital sovereignty in the public sector. From what I heard they unfortunately concluded that this is the only way to prevent organizations from freeriding, but it still sucks for the ecosystem. I'm working on one of the larger European Matrix public sector projects and we've been trying to mobilize funds for upstream contributions for some time, but it's not easy to convince the policy and finance people to approve sustainable contributions to an open source ecosystem; they want to see procurements where it's 100% clear what you get for your money. Also, public sector communication use cases frequently have high user count, low message volume and a high number of federated instances; so the current Synapse implementation has mostly been workable as you can feasibly scale horizontally. So there is currently not really that much financial incentive and pressure from the public sector to improve the efficiency of Synapse.

[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago

Now for comparison's sake, try snikket, or even barebones ejabberd on a (featuresfriendliness) vs (admin overheadserver resources) basis. Mix in some https://mov.im/ if you must.

[–] taco_shale032@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Were you running Synapse?

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 3 points 4 days ago

I tried a couple. Synapse was the one I did the longest if I recall.