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Well, no. If you're taking a stack of supposed moral allegories as fact, Lucifer was cast out for defying God, not for being naughty. Lucifer wouldn't kneel to mankind and serve them, thinking them lesser, so God tossed him out. Again, if you think myths are facts.
Look, I don't know what to tell to you "atheists." I met the devil last week and she was utterly forthright and honest in the reason for her expulsion from heaven. Clams. Paella, specifically. She has no idea where people got this rebellion thing.
I was told it was pineapple on pizza and tbh that seemed completely justified.
Last time Luci and I had a spat we sat wide eyed at a mountain of sins powerful men were excavating, looking for the true name of God. "Fuck," she noted. "Aye," I acknowledged.
That's medieval fanfic built over badly translated old testament passages that are talking about local kings and it's literally in the previous and next passages that they weren't talking about any angel... the only thing about being cast out is in Revelations after a war in heaven, that is said the dragon is the same as the serpent, the serpent that told humans that god lied that the fruit would kill them but instead would give us knowledge of good and evil, so literally pushed us towards developing philosophy and sciences, and that war is narrated just after god wipes a third of humanity in one go, turns the oceans into blood, send plagues, famine, beetles that sting like scorpions, and tortured the rest of humanity that for months would look for death and not find it and good were the mothers who smashed their babies against the rocks etc etc etc, that's what the dragon rose up against
Does it say that in Revelations 13 somewhere? Because it does not say that in Revelations 12 anywhere.
No.
Book of Job proves you wrong, Revelation proves you wrong, various references throughout Bible I won't bother to look up prove you wrong, and Jesus said that you are wrong. No Christian theologian agrees with you and no atheist theologian agrees with you. Because it's untrue, sorry.
You should probably read the Bible again (or for the first time?), perhaps annotated would be of help.
What part is untrue? That god said eating the fruit would certainly kill them and the serpent said it wasn't true and they ate and didn't die and instead gained knowledge (and lived till they were like 800yo or something)? The part that god killed a third of humanity in one go and then gruesomely tortured the rest? That the dragon rose up against that genocidal maniac with an ego bigger than creation? Or that those Isaiah/Ezekiel verses that created the myth about beauty, jealousy, narcissism, etc, that shaped the image of Lucifer in pop culture are about the kings of Babylon/Tyre? Is it really me that should read again?
I'd still vibe more with the guy who won't kneel to us - we suck.
And ... the rest of the angels do kneel to us?
So if I met an angel, I could command it to do whatever I wanted, and it would obey?
I need to get a new summoning book...
Hail Satan.
Hail Nero.
That's not how the story goes at all.
He didn't defy God; he wanted to be God.
Mankind wasn't a factor, it didn't even exist.
You'd have better luck spinning a story about a bad breakup and we're a puppy someone got out of impulse, thinking it'd fill the lonely void.
Thats how it goes in NKJV. But yes, there are other versions with variations on the tale.
No it does not.
The version of bible does not change canon, just the language/interpretation of language.
The narrative you mention does not exist canonically in any Bible.
Okay so what is your denomination's version of canon? I see a lot of denial here and thats about it.