Matrix was built to become the open communication of the web and serve everyone. But, as the Internet and email did, its network effect started with governments. Today, and as proven by the audience in the room, most European governments and several others are either using it or looking at implementing it for their communications. This talk will tell the story of how we got there and why.

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[–] gravitywell@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Matrix can be configured to clear logs and history on whatver basis you want it to. XMPP is a bit better by default but its not like you can't log messages on a regular basis from any platform. Its up to server operators to set things up securely.

[–] Flipper@feddit.org 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I know that you can configure synapse to delete messages. However every federated server only operates on their own delete scedule and you as the reciever can't see the messages then anymore. Which I think is stupid.

The messages should only be stored on the reciever device after they were delivered and deleted on the transfering server.

[–] ThreeKnew@lemdro.id 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So you want the client to save them instead?

What if they're using a web client? Browser storage? Unencrypted or do they need to enter a pw every time they log in?

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I think this would be very difficult to do correctly, especially in a manner that would work for people whose first question isn't how much metadata the server has access to

[–] Flipper@feddit.org 0 points 2 days ago

Well, unless you login and transfer all your keys every time, the client already has all the info required to fetch and decrypt all the messages.

[–] boonhet@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

You can't really force other people's servers to delete messages on any platform though. Nor can you force it in other people's clients even if they're on your server.