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[–] Triumph@fedia.io 14 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Until it's time to storm the Bastille.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 day ago (6 children)

No one's going to storm any Bastille until we are threatened with actual starvation. Past revolutions happened because people had absolutely nothing to lose but their lives.

Wealthy overlords have figured out that as long as they keep our food supply available, we will never revolt. It doesn't mean that we will be happy or that we will disagree with it .... it's as long as food is made available to us no matter how meager or unpleasant, then we will never rebel.

So unless we're starving, we'll never rebel ... governments and wealthy owners have figured out that they have to keep us fed, even if its just a little (and even if its shitty food), to keep us pacified.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This popular image of the French Revolution, and revolutions in general, is almost completely false. The central issue that led to the French Revolution wasn't declining living standards (though economic pressure was certainly relevant), but the French treasury going bankrupt and the resultant calling of the Estates General. Prosperous middle classes for example are generally a notoriously revolutionary bunch, and so are oppressed peoples and the proletariat. Economic pressure, up to and including starvation, is important, but it's neither necessary nor sufficient for revolution to break out.

Edit: If I were to oversimplify the causes of the revolution beyond recognition to produce something as short as the starvation thesis, it'd probably be something like the Marxist thesis: The Ancien Regime's fiscal crisis opened the way for the French bourgeoisie to demand political power, which they (to put it lightly) did. The big problem with this simplified explanation is that it only describes the first two months of the 5-25 year-long French Revolution (definitions vary), because the French Revolution is really fucking complicated.

[–] PenisLipsYinYang69@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

But you have to admit that part of the population did suffer greatly so far as lack of housing and lack of food, we are almost there . people will be fooled into war for profit but usually end up fodder, there is little convincing needed when family begins to starve.

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