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I think the word "ai" is a sware so I refer it as "slop machine"Can AI code not be tested well to ensure it works as intended?
I'm not sure using AI is synonymous with "vibecodeing" or "slop".
I mean I don't like devs pushing code that they don't truely understand
Do you have evidence of that happening at Proton?
The Proton CEO literally said that waiting a few days to pentest a feature before pushing it live was "bullshit and loser thinking." That is not the kind of careful testing culture that I demand from a secure product.
Agreed. That would be terrible. Terrible with or without AI coding. And the statement oddly goes against everything they've done up till now, with Andy at the helm the whole time. That's why I'm not certain it means what most here assume it does.
As far as I'm concerned the article is an allegation, not a conviction. It's like the prosecution making their argument to a grand jury without any opposing arguments. I agree there's more than enough in the article to have a trial. So far the defence has managed to poke a few holes in the prosecutor's case. The haven't obviously destroyed it, forcing 404 to make a retraction or anything; And they probably won't. We'll have to see in the next weeks and months how much more of 404's story they can cast reasonable doubt upon.
I know we can't prove if they know what they are doing atleast they can provide a hand written documentation so we can verify, is it a good idea ?
That's not bad.
When the release new updated source it coild be flagged or documented.