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Best email providers and Proton replacement? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by vas@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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What do you folks use instead of Proton and Google? Ideally I'm looking for:

Non-profit.
European-based if possible.
Paid is fine.
Low-risk. E.g. unlikely to disappear, unlikely to go bankrupt.

My reason to want non-profit is that it's the best way to align mine and the provider's incentives, I think. I'd consider for-profit as well, but it's best if it's a non-profit.

So far I like disroot a lot. But they are principled about being unpaid, so if the financial ends don't meet each other my emails will be in trouble. I'm donating to them, but I have my worries. I'm willing to pay a little if I know that my money will go for a quality service, for expansion of coverage (new users) and for open-source technologies.

Proton and their founder Andy are just a piece of sh*t in terms of upper management, so that's not worth discussing.

Posteo seems adequate. Tuta feels similar to Posteo with a bit more push for fanciness. Is there something similar but non-profit?

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[–] vas@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I'm using them already! Actually mentioned in the post body, too:

So far I like disroot a lot. But they are principled about being unpaid, so if the financial ends don't meet each other my emails will be in trouble. I'm donating to them, but I have my worries. I'm willing to pay a little if I know that my money will go for a quality service, for expansion of coverage (new users) and for open-source technologies.

But I'm also wary of continuity in case of financial struggles, hence this post. Maybe I should just wait out the current struggle with the failing disk and hope they will continue to operate on donations as they successfully have been for years and years... In any case, I'd like to know the alternatives, too.

[–] mccl@lemmy.datenverkehr.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just as i wanted to check my old disroot account after i saw your comment.

[–] vas@lemmy.ml 2 points 16 hours ago

Yup. They work very reliably on average, but the recent failure of 2 drives at once together with a personal loss of one of the founders (and the most active externally visible developer I think) was really tough for them. They're currently recovering, but it's tough.

[–] doodeux@scribe.disroot.org 1 points 2 days ago

Duh... reading is hard. /s

I think that they are in a good place financially. I seem to remember a page on their site that showed they are above water, although without a terribly big budget. I bought my first domain many months ago, and thought about moving it to disroot, since they do catch-all emails out of the box. But, still going to wait for them to get their disk situation ironed out.

I will say I had a ticket open and reached out to mappeth via xmpp, and it was a positive interaction. So, I'm still leaning towards disroot as a matter of just helping the scrappy little guy.