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[–] redrumBot@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If that server includes the security repository in its source files, I disagree. In fact, the use of the security repository in Debian has a history spanning more than 20 years.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world -4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Until some fucking php vulnerability grants root access

[–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

would arch have fixed this? no, what is your point?

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Rolling releases better at updates, by definition, that's my point. This can backfire, but also can save you sometimes.

[–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago

we are talking abou specificly security updates, upstream for most projects that are important for security have a concept of LTS releases, e.g the kernel's LTS, debian updates their stable packages rellying on upstream's LTS, debian does sometimes switches to newer LTS releases even if it means breaking the no new feature general rule of thumb, e.g kernel LTS goes EOL, debian maintainers sometimes do try to backport fixes themselves but generally debian prefers to follow upstream's LTS EOL where possible, generally updating to the oldest LTS not in EOL yet

debian has a specific team dedicated to security, updating packages, contacting and colaborating with upstream, reporting potential vulnerabilities e.g the xz backdoor first was reported to the ssh package maintaince team from which the importance and the nature of the issue was discovered and then reported to the debian security team which confirmwd the findings and made reports to other teams and tried contacting the old owner of xz since xz was effectively taken over by the malicious actor

[–] redrumBot@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If you are speaking about the latest php bug, debian stable and old stable were updated days ago, see https://security-tracker.debian.org/

[–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

it might be a failure to read on my part but this reads as unfixed on Debian but fixed on Arch

Edit: Oh, yeah ok, in the security repo it's fixed, why is the vulnerable version distributed to stable though?

[–] redrumBot@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Technically, you are right. But this is due to the different release systems.

In Debian, security updates for the stable version are distributed via the security repository until a new point release is created. The last point release was two months ago.

However, in practice, on Debian Trixie, you get the fixed version by running a standard apt update & apt upgrade.